And another Ubuntu convert!

Karl F. Larsen klarsen1 at gmail.com
Thu Jan 22 20:51:01 UTC 2009


Mark Haney wrote:
> Karl F. Larsen wrote:
>   
>> Steve Lamb wrote:
>>     
>>> Karl F. Larsen wrote:
>>>   
>>>       
>>>>     Read the paper. A new kernel fixed whatever the problem was in 1996. 
>>>> 13 years later there has not been a second virus.
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>>     Uh, try again.  If you scroll down and click the link "Linux Malware" you
>>> end up with a list of about 3 dozen different known malware targeting Linux.
>>> One of which I have seen in the wild.  So, sorry, your "has not been a second
>>> virus" falls flat.
>>>
>>>   
>>>       
>>     Alright I have never seen a virus sent to me or anyone else I have 
>> talked to from 1996 to the present day. Why worry?
>>
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>>     
>
> Indeed, why worry?  Since you are so up to date on your security
> practices and are so very comfortable with your settings, feel free not
> to worry.  I mean, it's only a matter of time before that attitude will
> make you careless.
>
> Besides, without AV software how would you KNOW you've not been sent a
> virus?
>
> Sadly, it is that very 'Why worry' attitude that is killing this
> country.  90% of the time, those who say that and get bit by it, always
> whine and are always a victim and NEVER take responsibility for the fact
> that they dropped the ball.
>
> Those of us who DO take responsibility for their actions and their
> equipment and data take every precaution necessary to prevent any
> incursion into our systems.
>
> This again is my point.  Neither you, nor anyone else is sufficiently
> versed enough in every single applications security vulnerabilities to
> be able to say 'my system won't be affected'.  It's simply not possible.
>  Sure, updates will patch some holes, but others, maybe not.
>
> But, do you KNOW your system is as safe as you think it is?  Have you
> done penetration testing?  Do you check your log files every day for
> unusual behaviour?  Do you keep a baseline look at system performance to
> determine what might be out of the ordinary?
>
> I bet you don't.
>
> So, how can you say you're system is virus/malware free?  Juse 'because
> it's linux'?  That's like saying, there's no crime in my neighborhood so
> I'll not lock my doors at night.    Doing that often enough is just an
> open invitation to get robbed.
>
> I've talked all I'm going to about this.  None of you naysayers will
> listen regardless, so I'm wasting my breath.  Be warned, it WILL happen.
>  I'd much rather not be you when it does.
>
>
>
>   
    Will it happen this year? Next year? Next 10-100 years? As you have 
been told by many, the anti-virus software available now does not work 
well. So why use it :-)

    I am both the IT and Owner of this computer. I do not have to 
convince the owner I'm doing a good job. I sleep very well :-)


Karl


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