No more "me too" posts.

[Dotan Cohen]

> Or don't buy the product. See how long an employer pays developers when
> the products don't sell. Or see how long an application sticks around
> when no one uses it.
>

Calm down. If you think that there are not enough bug reports for the
devs to fix, then trawl the mailing lists and blogs and start filing
bugs. I don't know how you would have the developer-user relationship
work when the devs needs more info, such as if a particular patch
fixes the problem or not.

> Oh, I'll send the honor to you with a basket of fruit, a big bow on top
> and a smile. The fact of the matter is that if products don't sell (and
> yes, this doesn't *directly* apply to FOSS products, but it does still
> have an impact when the programmers want food on the plate and a roof
> under which to live, unless everyone on the Internet is living in a
> self-sustaining commune, I'll concede) a business can't afford to pay
> their engineers and developers.
>
> In an ideal world, your view would be just the bee's knees. I agree. I'd
> love to see people actually follow an efficient system put in place to
> help them.
>
> Realistically...I'd have better luck finding a unicorn that grants magic
> wishes than finding consumers who will cooperate with what *other
> people* impose on them for these standards of user-friendliness.
> Consumer-centric cultures means catering to the lazy and the
> self-centered needs...well, desires...of the consumer, and that means
> making concessions to doing what the CUSTOMER wants, not the developer,
> whether it's going to streamline efficiency or be in their best interest
> or not. There's plenty of information on topics that relate to this; I
> named one already, and there are books like "Don't make me think!", etc.
> etc.
>
> Engineers are a weird group. If you understand what I'm talking about,
> then you probably understand that what you want is an ideal for your
> workflow but is really not achievable no matter how much you fight it.
> Ideally computers would be used for getting work done, as a tool to
> expand arts and literature and create new drugs and etc. etc, instead
> they're used mostly for texting teenagers, viewing porn, and playing
> video games. Computer technology wasn't "driven" in advancements for
> noble reasons. Advancements in affordable video graphics and network
> bandwidth was driven by first person shooters and b00b13s.
>
> So...catering to the lowest common denominators is a concession
> companies have to make to make a profit.
>
> So are you arguing because of what you *want* to see, or because of what
> you honestly think you're going to see as a transformation in a mailing
> list culture? Either way I think it's been a nice conversation. Unless
> you're getting offended, which I didn't mean to do.
>

I'm not offended. I simply think that you do not realize the value or
necessity of an official bugtracker.

-- 
Dotan Cohen

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