Simple Backup Config

[accessys at smart.net]

well I must be very learned because I have sure made a pot full of 
mistakes with this software.

happy holidays

Bob


On Thu, 24 Dec 2009, Johnny Rosenberg wrote:

> Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2009 16:51:51 +0100
> From: Johnny Rosenberg <gurus.knugum at gmail.com>
> Reply-To: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions"
>     <ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
> To: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions"
>     <ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Subject: Re: Simple Backup Config
> 
> 2009/12/24  <accessys at smart.net>:
>> On Thu, 24 Dec 2009, Johnny Rosenberg wrote:
>>
>>> 2009/12/24  <accessys at smart.net>:
>>>>
>>>> including /var is what causes the most problems because that is where it
>>>> stores the backup, so if you include /var you keep exponentially keep
>>>> rebacking up your backup and filling your hard drive.  1-2-4-8-16-32-64
>>>> etc.
>>>> Bob
>>>
>>> Yes, that's probably right, and when that happens you'll probably get
>>> an error message saying that the drive is full. Then you start to
>>> debug your settings and somehow you find out that ”aah, /var shouldn't
>>> be included”, so you edit your settings, erase your drive and try
>>> again. It's not a much bigger deal than that, is it?
>>
>> well I've found that when the drive is full and you get the error messages
>> it will no longer allow you to open the "simple backup config file"  and the
>> permissions are set only for root.   so to delete the files I first had to
>> find the offending files which got a "tgz" suffix and then had to go thru
>> chown, so I could get permission (or sudo su) then rm each file seperately.
>>  took a fair amount of grunt work and terminal time.  someone not as
>> comfortable working in terminal or not familiar with the commands could get
>> really flummuxed and frustrated.
>
> Well, I was more thinking in terms of formatting the whole drive, but
> it's only a good idea if you use the whole drive for backup, having
> partitioned it as one big partition.
>
> Okay, so this can be somewhat more complex than first meets the eye,
> but the best way to learn (not always perhaps) is by making mistakes
> and learn from it.
>
> Johnny Rosenberg
>
>
>
>>
>>
>>> By the way, I once included /var in my backups and I never had any
>>> problems with it, except that I thought that it was unnecessary so I
>>
>> you probably left the "exclude files over 100mb" option on but I think the
>> default is off.....maybe changed since I downloaded it
>>
>>> didn't include it the next time I rewrote my backup script (which do
>>> backups for me with rsync, by the way) from scratch. These days I only
>>> backup $HOME and I exclude some folders that only take unnecessary
>>> time to back up.
>>> Johnny Rosenberg
>>
>> which is pretty much the same way I "tamed" this program but it is an easy
>> mistake to make and the man that comes with it doesn't have any warning
>> about the overfull harddrive problem.
>>
>>
>> Bob
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, 23 Dec 2009, Johnny Rosenberg wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 20:23:08 +0100
>>>>> From: Johnny Rosenberg <gurus.knugum at gmail.com>
>>>>> Reply-To: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions"
>>>>>     <ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
>>>>> To: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions"
>>>>>     <ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
>>>>> Subject: Re: Simple Backup Config
>>>>>
>>>>> 2009/12/23 NoOp <glgxg at sbcglobal.net>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 12/22/2009 04:43 AM, Kipton Moravec wrote:
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Look in the menu System -> Administration -> Simple Backup Config
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That is where it is on 8.04 LTS. Do not see it installed in the
>>>>>>> default
>>>>>>> 9.10.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please be aware that if not configured properly Simple Backup can
>>>>>> easily
>>>>>> fill your hard drive with backup files until you run out of space
>>>>>> (check
>>>>>> the archives).
>>>>>
>>>>> What's the problem? If it happens, just erase your hard drive, change
>>>>> your settings and try again. How hard can it be?
>>>>> Of course I assume that when you try things like this the very first
>>>>> times, you use an external EMPTY hard drive (or other kind of external
>>>>> memory).
>>>>>
>>>>> So maybe my suggestion earlier was totally wrong. Will this work?
>>>>>
>>>>> Include: /
>>>>> Exclude: /media
>>>>>
>>>>> Or
>>>>>
>>>>> Include: /home, /var, /etc, /usr, /bin, /lib, /boot, /dev, /initrd,
>>>>> /opt, /proc, /root, /sbin, /srv, /sys
>>>>> Exclude: (Leave empty)
>>>>>
>>>>> The second alternative won't backup files in /, but maybe those few
>>>>> files are not very important.
>>>>>
>>>>> Johnny Rosenberg
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> So follow the instructions/docs carefully:
>>>>>> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem/SimpleBackupSuite
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <http://www.google.com/search?q=ubuntu+%2Bsbackup+%2Bdisk+space&btnG=Search&complete=0&hl=en&sa=2>
>>>>>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sbackup/+bug/42142
>>>>>> [sbackup doesn't check for/prevent full disk - 2006 bug that still
>>>>>> hasn't been fixed]
>>>>>>
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