ubuntu-users Digest, Vol 64, Issue 88

g knott civiliz2 at gmail.com
Wed Dec 9 19:50:44 UTC 2009


Dear list-members,

Is there a more 'advanced" print utility available on 9.04 or earlier?

I have an HP3100 which has numerous resolution and bleed/no-bleed options.

lpr prints a .jpg file fine, mapping file-pixel to printer-pixel, but refuses to
use the entire 8x11 page, and "partitions" the output onto multiple
pages - without notification.

Printing from firefox provides a better set of options where I can pick my
desired resolution - but it does not honor its "magnification" option, and it
adds a file-name url banner to the page.

Is there another option?  - preferably just a program I can run from
command-line,
- like lpr, but with more effective controls that work?

Thanks.

P.S. Ubuntu-help on printing has lots about setting up a printer or
network printer  (i.e. using cups), but nothing on how to actually print a file!
(That needs to be fixed.)

gary knott, knott at civilized.com


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>    4. Re: That Code of Conduct (Oliver Grawert)
>    5. Re: Bad signature for updated packages (Leonard)
>    6. Re: That Code of Conduct (Alan McKay)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 17:31:48 +0000
> From: Peter Humphrey <peter at humphrey.ukfsn.org>
> Subject: Re: rsync backup of /home/.ecryptfs causes errors
> To: "Ubuntu user technical support,	not for general discussions"
> 	<ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Message-ID: <200912091731.48929.peter at humphrey.ukfsn.org>
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> On Wednesday 09 December 2009 08:30:10 James Taylor wrote:
>
>> Inevitably, to take a consistent backup copy of the .ecryptfs file
>> you'll need to make sure the corresponding user is logged out. Is there
>> not a night time hour when you can be reasonably certain nobody is
>> logged in? Can you take the system to single user run level at the
>> scheduled hour to do the backups?
>
> On my boxes I have a small rescue system in its own partition, which I use
> for
> things like making backups. That guarantees that no files are open when
> they're backed up.
>
> Of course, these aren't mission-critical systems.
>
> --
> Rgds
> Peter
>
>
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 17:41:16 +0000
> From: Chris G <cl at isbd.net>
> Subject: Forms design for web pages - what's available?
> To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
> Message-ID: <20091209174116.GA6439 at chris>
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> I'm looking for a tool a bit like the Forms Design part of Open Office
> (or MS Access for that matter) that will build web data input forms. I
> don't want a full-blown CMS or site design package, I just want to be
> able to build some simple data entry pages to load data into a
> database from the web (well, actually my intranet).
>
> Is there anything out there which can do this?
>
> --
> Chris Green
>
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2009 11:51:24 -0600
> From: Leonard <lenc5570 at sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: Re: question about fsck failing during startup
> To: "Ubuntu user technical support,	not for general discussions"
> 	<ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
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> scar wrote:
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>> Leonard Chatagnier @ 12/09/2009 09:48 AM:
>>
>>> --- On Wed, 12/9/09, scar<scar at drigon.com>  wrote:
>>> Werner Schram @ 12/09/2009 04:29 AM:
>>>
>>>> You can check the status of your hard disk with palimpsets, which is
>>>> available under System->administration->Disk Utility.
>>>>
>>> i can't find that. must not be installed. i checked add/remove programs
>>> and there is no 'disk utility'.  i also tried apt-get install
>>> palimpsets, but it cannot find the package.  is it available only for
>>> 9.10? (i am still on 9.04)
>>>
>>> lchata at karmic-desktop:~$ aptitude search palimpsets
>>> lchata at karmic-desktop:~$ aptitude search disk-util
>>> i   gnome-disk-utility              - manage and configure disk drives
>>> and media
>>> lchata at karmic-desktop:~$
>>>
>> yeah, only available for 9.10 and up. :\
>>
>>
>>
>>
> Well, you can upgrade to Karmic or google for "linux disk utilities",
> download the isos and burn to disc
> then boot from disc and do what you want.  testdisk-6.10 is one I've
> used.  ubcd411.iso is another and some
> googling should find you several more.  I could be wrong but I feel
> pretty sure your install disk for 9.04 has
> some utilities to use.  Have you explored the disc to see what it has
> installed and have you ran the aptitude
> search command I showed above on your 9.04 system?  If disk-util doesn't
> pick up something on your 9.04
> just use disk and see what comes up.  Then using aptitude show will tell
> you what the program does and other info.
> FWIW, now that you have marked the bad blocks there is a fairly good
> chance you troubles are over.  I have
> a fairly old HDD on an old Dell tower which got corrupted by fsck and
> couldn't be fixed with repeated fscking.
> I downloaded the two mentioned above and did a lot of reading on how to
> use it(highly recommended you do to)
> and then started playing around trying to recover the OS.  Nothing got
> it to boot even though it recovered missing
> files.  So went out and bought a second hand drive, installed and added
> Ubuntu to it, but left the old drive in place.
> On a hunch, I reformatted the failed drive and reinstalled ubuntu on it
> and it still works fine today.  Just to let you
> know that disk utils wont necessary recover a corrupt fs and that the
> disk is not necessarily bad even though
> everyone recommended I junk it.  My experience is that HDDs
>   are pretty hardy devices and never had one fail
> on some very old machines.  AAMOF, the only PC failure was on my new
> Gateway when the MB went out while
> still in warranty.
> My point in my original reply was to show you you were looking for the
> wrong file name and how you can help
> yourself by judicious use of the aptitude search and also show
> commands.  For me, they are better than any gui
> but the synaptic gui is pretty damn good if you use the correct key
> words when using the search command.
> HTH
> --
> Leonard lenc5570 at sbcglobal.net
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> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2009 19:09:02 +0100
> From: Oliver Grawert <ogra at ubuntu.com>
> Subject: Re: That Code of Conduct
> To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
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> hi,
> Am Mittwoch, den 09.12.2009, 10:15 -0600 schrieb Cybe R. Wizard:
>> I posted this to the sounder group a few days ago.  It seems that it
>> is also needed here where more people read.
>> -----------------------
>>
>> We are seeing a lot of references to the Code of Conduct
> ...
>
> below are the official rules the provider of the lists
> (canonical and the ubuntu community) expects to be followed ...
>
> http://www.ubuntu.com/support/community/mailinglists/etiquette
>
> i think it shows pretty clear that the CoC is one of the core
> components ...
>
> ciao
> 	oli
>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2009 12:15:01 -0600
> From: Leonard <lenc5570 at sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: Re: Bad signature for updated packages
> To: "Ubuntu user technical support,	not for general discussions"
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> Jochen Antesberger wrote:
>> I just did my ususual aptitude update session to install security
>> updates. Turns out that ntpdate updates fine, but the other three
>> candidates, gdm, devicekit-disks and seahorse-plugins cause a warning
>> that these packages are not trusted.
>>
>> Is there a problem on the Ubuntu servers (using the german mirror) or do
>> I have a corrupted file transfer there?
>>
>> How am I going to fix this one, please?
>>
>> Jochen
>>
>>
>>
> Usually when I get that notice using aptitude it ask me if I want to
> install them or not.
> I usually just click yes to install as I know what's in my source.list
> file and intend to
> install whatever is available.  I don;t use the German mirror but don't
> think you have
> a corrupted file or Ubuntu server issue.  Usually you just have to
> accept the install to
> get the apps installed on your system.
>
> --
> Leonard
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> Message: 6
> Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 13:33:07 -0500
> From: Alan McKay <alan.mckay at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: That Code of Conduct
> To: "Ubuntu user technical support,	not for general discussions"
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> On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 1:09 PM, Oliver Grawert <ogra at ubuntu.com> wrote:
>> http://www.ubuntu.com/support/community/mailinglists/etiquette
>>
>> i think it shows pretty clear that the CoC is one of the core
>> components ...
>
> I think you are right.   It also says :
>
>> When quoting, attribute the quoted text to the person who
>> wrote it (again, most email clients will do this by default).
>> Be careful to attribute the correct text to the correct person.
>
> In the most recent case for me, I was not quoting.  I had no intent to
> quote.  I added another datapoint to the discussion which was not
> directly related to anything else which had been said in the thread,
> but nonetheless which I believe to be related to the discussion.  I
> thought this was obvious from the context but I guess not.  So I will
> be more careful in the future to explicitly state when I am adding new
> data which may not necessarily relate back to anything that had
> previously been mentioned.
>
> That link above also says :
>
>> Avoid sending emails in HTML format, if possible.
>
> Going back to my response to Leonard.
>
> cheers,
> -Alan
>
>
>
> --
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>          - Michael Pollan, author of "In Defense of Food"
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> Message: 7
> Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 18:41:25 +0000
> From: Liam Proven <lproven at gmail.com>
> Subject: Automatic background updates
> To: "Ubuntu user technical support,	not for general discussions"
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> Is there an "official" way to do this, rather than just using cron to
> schedule a script that says something like...
>
>   apt-get update
>   apt-get upgrade -y
>
> ...?
>
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> Message: 8
> Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2009 12:49:58 -0600
> From: Leonard <lenc5570 at sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: Re: That Code of Conduct
> To: "Ubuntu user technical support,	not for general discussions"
> 	<ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
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> Oliver Grawert wrote:
>> hi,
>> Am Mittwoch, den 09.12.2009, 10:15 -0600 schrieb Cybe R. Wizard:
>>
>>> I posted this to the sounder group a few days ago.  It seems that it
>>> is also needed here where more people read.
>>> -----------------------
>>>
>>> We are seeing a lot of references to the Code of Conduct
>>>
>> ...
>>
>> below are the official rules the provider of the lists
>> (canonical and the ubuntu community) expects to be followed ...
>>
>> http://www.ubuntu.com/support/community/mailinglists/etiquette
>>
>> i think it shows pretty clear that the CoC is one of the core
>> components ...
>>
>> ciao
>> 	oli
>>
>>
>>
> Thanks oli.  I think the link you list above is what most people mean
> when referring to the CoC.
> It was in my earlier reply.
>
> --
> Leonard
> lenc5570 at sbcglobal.net
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> Message: 9
> Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 20:01:23 +0100
> From: Tom H <tomh0665 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: apt-get dist-upgrade, and X issues
> To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
> Message-ID:
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>>> Note: ran across this today while checking what the new gdm update was
>>> related to.
>>> 2.28.1-0ubuntu2
>>> Publishing details
>>>
>>> ? ? * Published on 2009-11-30
>>> Changelog
>>>
>>> gdm (2.28.1-0ubuntu2) karmic-proposed; urgency=low
>>>
>>> ? * Don't respawn gdm on failure; this lets us capture X failures
>>> instead and
>>> ? ? trigger the bulletproof X handler here. ?LP: #441638.
>>> ? * re-export any XORGCONFIG value passed to the upstart job, needed to
>>> ? ? complete integration with bulletproof X. ?LP: #474806.
>
>> Thanks, this is almopst certainly my problem.
>>
>> I am starting to think about moving off of Ubuntu. It seems that they are
>> trying to re-engineer a great many things that have a long standig history
>> of working well in *NIXsystems, and the re-emgeneered efforts seem of
>> questionable value to me. The example ehre is upstart, what is the
>> compleeing reason to create a system where all teh worlds *NIX admins will
>> be presented with something thta does not conform to well establishe
>> practice?
>>
>> Evewn teh BSD's are moving to SysV init these days. Theonly outlyer that I
>> am aware of, besides Ubuntu is Solaris.
>
> OS X also has its own init-replacement, launchd.
>
> Fedora has moved partially to upstart and might be moving completely
> for its next release, F13, which most likely means that RHEL will move
> to upstart in a few years too. Of course, in Fedora, upstart jobs are
> in /etc/event.d (where they were pre-Karmic) whereas in Karmic they
> are in /etc/init. No comment...
>
> Debian has moved to insserv for its next version, Squeeze. I landed on
> some debian-devel thread, when I was googling insserv two months ago,
> where the lead dev was being attacked quite vehemently for this change
> but it is set to happen.
>
> IMO upstart is not to blame here. The Ubuntu devs would have probably
> done the "don't respawn..." if they were still using sysvinit because
> the reason for the "don't respawn..." is to use the new Xorg
> bulletproof X handler, if I understand the error correctly. So you
> should blame X or the way that the devs are implementing bulletproof
> X! :)
>
>
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