karl's sig bug in evolution on hardy?

Wed Aug 12 20:05:20 UTC 2009

Jay Daniels wrote:
> On Wed, 2009-08-12 at 08:23 -0600, Karl F. Larsen wrote:
>   
>> Siggy Brentrup wrote:
>>     
>>> On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 21:03 -0400, Jay Daniels wrote:
>>>   
>>>       
>>>> On Mon, 2009-08-10 at 21:47 -0400, Fred Roller wrote:
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>>>> On Mon, 2009-08-10 at 19:48 -0400, Jay Daniels wrote:
>>>>>       
>>>>>           
>>>>>> Ok, I'm not picking on Karl here ok.  Just trying to explain what's
>>>>>> happening with Evolution sigs on reply.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If I reply to a message from karl f larsen in the list, Evolution does
>>>>>> not cut his sig, it cuts the ubuntu-users mailing list sig at the bottom
>>>>>> of the message.  Bug? perhaps, read on...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> However, if I reply to others on the list, Evolution cuts their sig; so,
>>>>>> whatsup with this sig problem?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Furthermore, I can see nothing wrong with Karl's sig in the Message
>>>>>> window.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can anyone with Evolution on hardy reproduce this problem?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> jay
>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>> my test sig
>>>>>>         
>>>>>>             
>>>>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>>>>
>>>>> Evolution 2.26.1 on:
>>>>>
>>>>> Linux metis 2.6.28-14-generic #47-Ubuntu SMP Sat Jul 25 01:19:55 UTC
>>>>> 2009 x86_64 GNU/Linux 
>>>>>
>>>>> using gnome.
>>>>>
>>>>> -- 
>>>>> Fred R.
>>>>> www.fwrgallery.com
>>>>>
>>>>> "Life is like Linux - simple; if you are fighting it, you are doing
>>>>> something wrong."
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>       
>>>>>           
>>>> As stated before, my .procmailrc is correcting any "bad" sigs so I don't
>>>> really know if the original is correct or not.  However, Evolution bug
>>>> is cutting the ubuntu list sig, not the sig of the last author.
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>> In order to see what's going on, let your .procmailrc insert an additional
>>> FIXED line, say '\n-- \nFIXED\n', as is you can't tell a correct .sig
>>> from a fixed one.
>>>
>>> My procmailrc is cutting those boring and superfluous ML footers that
>>> make my postings only partially signed.
>>>
>>> Whether evolution's behavior is correct is hard to tell, you want it
>>> to cut on the 1st occurring delimiter, it cuts on the last one.
>>> Think of bottom quotings or forwarded messages, cutting on the first
>>> occurrence might loose some contents.
>>>
>>> my 2¢
>>>   Siggy
>>>   
>>>       
>>     Why don't you all use Thunderbird which has none of those problems?
>>
>>
>> 73 karl
>>
>>
>>
>>     
>
> Thunderbird (for me at least) has 5 major flaws or drawbacks in Ubuntu.
>
> 1) it's not the default and not installed by default.
> 2) does not read mail folder directly, no maildir support.
> 3) does not auto insert selected text when replying.
>   (just about every windows email client in the world can do this
>    except Thunderbird in Linux)
>   
    What are you talking about "insert selected text when replying"? I 
just inserted this :-)


> 4) Thunderbird has plugins but must be installed.  Evo Plugins are
> already installed.
>   

    Well I'm not sure I have any plugins. How would I know a plugin by 
it's color or the file size? :-)
> 5) if it's no better (probably not as good as evo due to missing
> features) why bother.
>
>   
    Because it is the best email client Mozilla can build and like 
Firefox it is produced for Linux first and then windows later. I think 
about 50% of the people I know still using windows use Firefox and many 
others use Thunderbird over Outlook.
> The way I handle my mail by reading ~/.maildir directly and using
> procmail and fetchmail to get my mail, has a lot to do with which client
> I use.  I can read the same mail with mutt from console/terminal or
> Evolution in Gnome.  Reading mail is instant since fetchmail is run by
> cron and procmail sorts the mail for me.  Sending mail is instant (as
> far as I am concerned) with msmtp.  So getting mail and sending mail is
> invisible to the user and Evo reads maildir directly like mutt.  As far
> as I know Thunderbird still can't do this.
>
>   
    You want to use mutt for some reason :-)


73 karl

> So, I have 2 ways to read my mail and only use a notebook and don't much
> have a need for multiple computers.  I use to only use gmail for a long
> time, but one day I wanted to print a message and had to click this view
> source etc, what a pain.  I found out you give up a lot with gmail and
> decided not to have such limitations.
>
> Although Thunderbird will do most of what you want, after weeks in
> Evolution, I find the Evo interface much nicer.  Evo has one flaw, since
> I use vertical view the width of the message window is not remembered on
> restart.  This is about the only problem I have found.  Easy trade off
> so I overlook it.
>
> The truth is like the mutt page says, all email client suck.  Ten years
> ago there was exmh using mh folders.  exmh would still be usable if it
> had a widescreen view.  This project seems to be dead now.  It uses Tk
> interface so perhaps someone will create a widescreen view for exmh -
> fastest email client I have ever used over the years.
>
>
> jay
>
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