ubuntu-users Digest, Vol 56, Issue 348

Gaurav Sharma me at gauravmail.info
Mon Apr 27 17:21:14 UTC 2009


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>   1. Re: A USB drive as (1) 160 GB partition sole purpose data
>      (Amedee Van Gasse (Ubuntu))
>   2. Re: Installing Ubuntu (NoOp)
>   3. Re: Printer Puzzlement (Patton Echols)
>   4. Intel Atom with 64bit version (Matt Sullivan)
>   5. Re: Tracker Applet Error (NoOp)
>   6. Re: Virtual memory issues in Jaunty (Smoot Carl-Mitchell)
>   7. Re: A USB drive as (1) 160 GB partition sole purpose data
>      (Allen Meyers)
>   8. Re: to Karl (Amedee Van Gasse (ubuntu))
>   9. Re: MD5 crypting (NoOp)
>  10. Re: [Jaunty] Heads Up upgrade disables Wicd (Brian McKee)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 17:39:23 +0200
> From: "Amedee Van Gasse (Ubuntu)" <amedee-ubuntu at amedee.be>
> Subject: Re: A USB drive as (1) 160 GB partition sole purpose data
> To: "Ubuntu user technical support,     not for general discussions"
>        <ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Message-ID: <022a360c16eaea8253f3cc511fb7cf9e.squirrel at amedee.be>
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> On Mon, April 27, 2009 17:14, Thorny wrote:
>
> > Just to be clear, you do have your BIOS set to boot from the first hard
> > drive don't you? If you have it set to boot from USB and, at some point
> in
> >  the past while you were playing with distros, you put a GRUB MBR on the
> > removable drive too, it will make a difference if the removable drive is
> > connected at boot time, depending on where that MBR sends grub next.
>
> Even when you have not installed grub on the removable drive [*] _and_ you
> have set your BIOS to boot from the first hard disk, then you can still
> get grub error 15 when you boot with the removable drive plugged in.
>
>
> [*] I'd have to look up the exact syntax, but I would dd the first couple
> of kilobytes of /dev/sdX to standard output and use a combination of
> strings and grep on it.
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
   i have 2 GB of ram and nvidia 8400GS graphics card and 320 GB of HDD

>
> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 09:01:22 -0700
> From: NoOp <glgxg at sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: Re: Installing Ubuntu
> To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
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> On 04/26/2009 08:14 AM, Derek Broughton wrote:
> > Sean or Mona wrote:
> >
> >> It was a disaster for me.  A terrible disaster.
> >> This bugger is a 1.8 ghz Pentium 4 that I'm running.  But I tried
> >> installing Ubuntu 9.04 and not only did it crawl like molasses but
> nothing
> >> could be done with it.
> >> Indeed I'm not sure if the menus were supposed to work in a similar
> >> fashion to MS Windoze, but I tried left clicking, right clicking, double
> >> clicking, just waiting to see if they drop on their own - nothing.
> >> A misaligned screen display didn't help much, I suppose. But after all
> the
> >> hope and hype and buildup and anticipation that I had subjected myself
> to
> >> -- I was really let down.
> >> I was really hoping it would be my salvation from Windoze. No. It was
> >> useless. So I'm back with Windoze 2000 and the very least I can say
> about
> >> it is -- well.... it works.
> >
> > It's a 1.8 GHz Pentium 4 - what did you expect?  I admit the release
> notes
> > say that should be sufficient, but still...  It's going to drag. How much
> > memory do you have?
>
> Ummm... I have Ubuntu 9.04 running on an 800Mhz/384Mb A21M Thinkpad, a
> 1.6Ghz/740Mb, and a 2.4Ghz/512Mb... I've no problems with any of those.
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 09:04:46 -0700
> From: Patton Echols <p.echols at comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: Printer Puzzlement
> To: "Ubuntu user technical support,     not for general discussions"
>        <ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Message-ID: <49F5D79E.50600 at comcast.net>
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> On 04/27/2009 01:32 AM, dwain wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 1:53 AM, Patton Echols <p.echols at comcast.net
> > <mailto:p.echols at comcast.net>> wrote:
> >
> >     My laptop runs Hardy,
> >
> >     I have a Brother HL-1440 laser printer with the CUPS drivers from
> >     brother installed.  The printer is normally attached to an XP box
> that
> >     shares the printer.  I have CUPS configured to see it as two
> printers,
> >     local and network (Using the same drivers, same settings, just the
> >     location is different)
> >
> >
> > have you tried removing the local printer and just use it as a network
> > printer?  does that work for you?
> >
> > cheers,
> > dwain
> >
>
> No, but initially it was only a network printer and had this effect.  I
> set it up locally to test and that worked. w/o an other changes.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 09:10:51 -0700
> From: Matt Sullivan <matt at matt-sullivan.info>
> Subject: Intel Atom with 64bit version
> To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
> Message-ID: <49F5D90B.4020108 at matt-sullivan.info>
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> Hi,
> Has someone tested the 9.04 64bit version with the following?
> * Intel BLKD945GCLF2 Atom 330 Intel 945GC Mini ITX Motherboard/CPU Combo
> * 2GB 240-Pin SDRAM DDR2 667 (PC2 5300)
> * Rosewill RC-400-LX 10/ 100/ 1000Mbps PCI NIC
> I am considering building an efficient Microwulf cluster
> (http://www.calvin.edu/~adams/research/microwulf/<http://www.calvin.edu/%7Eadams/research/microwulf/>)
> and would like some
> feedback.
> Thanks in advance,
> Matt
> PS: I noticed the earlier post that did not mention 32 vs 64 bit.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 09:47:42 -0700
> From: NoOp <glgxg at sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: Re: Tracker Applet Error
> To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
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> On 04/26/2009 08:05 AM, Tom wrote:
> > Installed 9.04...after tracker applet activated, tracker error window
> > pops up "there was an error while performing indexing: Index corrupted."
> > Indexing did 7253 of 7253 files.
> >
> > Tom
> >
> >
>
> Perhaps (in order):
>
> https://launchpad.net/+search?field.text=tracker
> <
> https://launchpad.net/+search?field.text=tracker+%2Bjaunty&field.actions.search=Search
> >
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/jaunty/+source/tracker
> <https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/jaunty/+source/tracker/+bug/346912>
>
> Will help.
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 09:49:05 -0700
> From: Smoot Carl-Mitchell <smoot at tic.com>
> Subject: Re: Virtual memory issues in Jaunty
> To: "Ubuntu user technical support,     not for general discussions"
>        <ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Message-ID: <1240850945.5568.830.camel at smoot>
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> On Mon, 2009-04-27 at 15:47 +0300, Marius Gedminas wrote:
> > It seems that Compiz in Jaunty has a memory leak and fills up all my
> > system memory (2 GB RAM + 3 GB swap) in under five days.  What is more
> > surprising to me (and the reason I didn't realize I was running out of
> > memory), was that the kernel did not free the 1 GB of memory used by the
> > page cache.  Why?
>
> You can do this to drop the various caches from memory.
>
> http://www.linuxinsight.com/proc_sys_vm_drop_caches.html
> --
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 10:59:04 -0600
> From: Allen Meyers <texas.chef94 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: A USB drive as (1) 160 GB partition sole purpose data
> To: "Ubuntu user technical support,     not for general discussions"
>        <ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Message-ID:
>        <c9e554c70904270959s15be46b6mcf8a1f216316ec4c at mail.gmail.com>
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> On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 9:39 AM, Amedee Van Gasse (Ubuntu)
> <amedee-ubuntu at amedee.be> wrote:
> > On Mon, April 27, 2009 17:14, Thorny wrote:
> >
> >> Just to be clear, you do have your BIOS set to boot from the first hard
> >> drive don't you? If you have it set to boot from USB and, at some point
> in
> >> ?the past while you were playing with distros, you put a GRUB MBR on the
> >> removable drive too, it will make a difference if the removable drive is
> >> connected at boot time, depending on where that MBR sends grub next.
> >
> > Even when you have not installed grub on the removable drive [*] _and_
> you
> > have set your BIOS to boot from the first hard disk, then you can still
> > get grub error 15 when you boot with the removable drive plugged in.
> >
> >
> > [*] I'd have to look up the exact syntax, but I would dd the first couple
> > of kilobytes of /dev/sdX to standard output and use a combination of
> > strings and grep on it.
> >
> >
> > --
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> Thorny, Amedee & list:
> I am sure by this time all must think I am some kind of totally inept
> individual and where Linux is concerned that was true, not totally any
> longer and I owe whatever progress I have made to this group and
> NTLUG. Since I still consult to school food service and one of my
> clients a school district has a very accomplished IT man who installed
> Copiolot on my unit way back (I never thought to use it) but I did
> Friday and landline plus copilot plus IT specialist got me back to a
> more grounded position.
> So to answer the error 15 first according to my school guy what was
> said about the mount, unmount, grub location by this list he agrees
> totally and he says that was the cause of at leat one of those error,
> but he cautioned me as you all have that when I was playing with
> partitioning on both my HD and external my attempts at creating /home
> and data on HD and external and not reversing my command line
> mistakes. Things like these sudo mkdir /old
> sudo mount -t ext4 /dev/sda1 /old
> sudo mkdir /new
> sudo mount -t ext4 /dev/sda3 /ne
> Not addressing the errors returned and going on resulted in some of my
> problems as well.
> Knowing me as he does his suggestion was never leave the USB plugged
> in and always unmount first and unplug prior to shut down.
> He did advise me to format that USB and make certain nothing remained
> and use the check function in gparted as part of the procedure.
> We did mount the drive, mount point data made a single partition and
> he said since I have no windows no need to consider FAT and taking my
> word for the ext 4 which he knew nothing about he saw no problen in
> using it on the partition. (but did say to ask list)
> his outlined procedure was:
> 1. Go to the file in question, open it, go to file+save copy+file
> name+160 GB media
> Now because he is not Linux he advised me to ask list for navigation
> protocol for going to partition folder, viewing files on partition,
> and how to edit them.
> He also suggested but admitted he did not know how that it could be
> possible to create folders within the partition
> So that is it and I am fortunate enough that my grandsons thesis is in
> Hazard Analysis Critical Control Point HACCP my consulting expertise.
>
> Sorry about the length of this, but I figured the list deserved an
> explanation and not left hanging
>
> Allen
> http://s577.photobucket.com/albums/ss219/worthamtx/
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 19:01:10 +0200
> From: "Amedee Van Gasse (ubuntu)" <amedee-ubuntu at amedee.be>
> Subject: Re: to Karl
> To: "Ubuntu user technical support,     not for general discussions"
>        <ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
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> Roy Smith schreef:
> > Karl F. Larsen wrote:
> >> Corwin wrote:
> >>
> >>> could you please repost that tip bout gui ssh
> >>>
> >>> i have "misplaced" it
> >>>
> >>> TIA
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>     I will add it here:
> >>
> >>
> >>         The GUI way to use ssh to connect two, or many computers
> >> together is very simple to do. To begin you need to install sshd on all
> >> the computers. It is not part of the normal Ubuntu so you need to
> >> download it. This is done in a terminal by typing $ sudo aptitude
> >> install sshd.
> >>
> >>
> >
> > Are you sure that's right?  Here's what happens when I do that on my
> > machine:
> >
> >     roy at looneybin:~$ sudo aptitude install ssh
> *snip*
> >
> >     roy at looneybin:~$ sudo apt-get install sshd
> >     Reading package lists... Done
> >     Building dependency tree
> >     Reading state information... Done
> >     E: Couldn't find package sshd
> >     roy at looneybin:~$
> >
> >
> > Now I did the following and got this result:
> >
> >     roy at looneybin:~$ sudo aptitude install ssh
> *snip*
> >
> > is this the same thing that you're talking about here?
> >
>
> I suppose he meant sudo aptitude install ssh, not sshd.
> You have to install ssh to get sshd. :-)
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> Message: 9
> Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 10:12:59 -0700
> From: NoOp <glgxg at sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: Re: MD5 crypting
> To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
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> On 04/26/2009 12:29 PM, Arda Eden wrote:
> > I'm trying to password some menu.lst entries by using md5 cryption.
> > I'm using grub-md5-crypt to make the encryption.
> > While booting, grub asks for the password but doesn't accept it. (sure
> I'm
> > entering it right)
>
> See:
> https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/serverguide/C/console-security.html
> to see if you've missed any steps.
> Or locally: System|Help and Support| - search grub-md5-crypt and click
> on Ubuntu Server Guide grub-md5-crypt
>
> > The other interesting thing is every encryption with grub-md5-crypt for
> the
> > same password generates different hashes.
>
> It should give you different hashes each time.
>
>
>
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>
> Message: 10
> Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 13:15:06 -0400
> From: Brian McKee <brian.mckee at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Jaunty] Heads Up upgrade disables Wicd
> To: "Ubuntu user technical support,     not for general discussions"
>        <ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
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> On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 6:24 PM, NoOp <glgxg at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> > Just upgraded my test machine from Intrepid to Jaunty (9.10)
>
> You meant 9.04 right?
> > using the
> > Alternate CD. In order to conserve my DSL bandwidth I elected to not
> > have the upgrade go out and get updates from the internet, but instead
> > install only from the CD. That all went pretty well with the exeption
> > that when I rebooted I found no network. wicd was not working - at all.
>
> Thanks for sharing - I'll keep that in mind.
>
> FWIW, I've been using Network Mangler in Jaunty for a couple of weeks now,
> I've come this close to replacing it several times with wicd.  It
> looks pretty, but it acts flakey.
> It takes forever to decide a wireless network it was connected to
> yesterday isn't actually working still,
> and I can't for the life of me figure out when/why it picks my wired
> static IP entry before/after my wired
> DHCP network entry, and then when I had to add a PPPoE entry I ended
> up deleting the wired networks
> and disabling the wireless one just to get it to try it.
>
> I had vague hopes that the update fairy would fix it, but alas, no luck.
> I'm sure it's days in my household are once again numbered.
>
> Brian
>
>
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