Ubuntu second hard drive was Windows partition

Mark Haney mhaney at ercbroadband.org
Fri Sep 5 12:02:04 UTC 2008


Karl Larsen wrote:

>     Not so. There is the MBR in the front of the HD and in front of the 
> one partition you seem to favor.
> 
> 
>     My point is not to show you up as wrong. It is to show you the 
> proper way to state a condition. "Mount a hard drive..." is incorrect. 
> You can't do this. Try to do it with fstab.
> 
> Karl
> 


Okay, Karl, I'm going to spell it out for you.  Since you want to get 
into a pissing contest over technical accuracy.

NO, there is not always an MBR at the front of the drive.  The MBR can 
be anywhere on the drive.  Or there may not be an MBR at all.  I have a 
half dozen linux boxes here that don't USE MBRs to boot their operating 
systems.

Not to mention the fact that there are new experimental filesystems that 
don't use partitioning at all since the partition information takes up 
space (as well as the file system tables) that it won't need in a purely 
asynchronous data setting.

Not to mention, how many times have you heard on here, 'I can't mount my 
flash drive?'  or, as in this case, he wasn't mounting his second drive 
properly?

The point I am making is KNOWLEDGEABLE people understand the fact that 
it's a partition we're talking about.  The only time someone mentions 
mounting a partition is when there are multiple ones on a drive.  By 
default, if they say 'drive' they mean the entire drive in one partition.

And believe me, you aren't showing me up as wrong, you're just 
continually showing how little you know by these posts.

Please, I ask one last time, before you go spouting out tripe like this, 
think first.  And understand that certain conditions are understood 
inherently in certain technical phrases.  I mean if you want to get 
really picky, the system never /mounts/ a drive, it send a message to 
the filesystem drive to talk to the hardware controller, to tell the 
drive that it needs to present information that it is present to the 
operating system.  I mean if you want to REALLY get serious about the 
exact method of mounting a drive, we'd be here all day every day digging 
through the exact method by which the OS does that.

We don't NEED to spell that out everytime.  It is UNDERSTOOD. My 9 year 
old daughter even understands what I mean by mounting a drive.  She 
knows more about filesystems and partitioning than most adults.

Now, can you possibly get that through your skull?  I'm really kind of 
sick of having to explain this to you over and over.  We know what we 
mean when we say it.  Period.  End of discussion, if you don't like it, 
tough.  It's pretty much SOP in the tech world.




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