Xorg.conf vs. Xorg.config With BFG Nvidia G71 [GeForce 7300GS] & Hardy 64 Bit

[Leonard Chatagnier]

--- On Mon, 10/20/08, Dave Woyciesjes <woyciesjes at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> From: Dave Woyciesjes <woyciesjes at sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: Re: Xorg.conf vs. Xorg.config With BFG Nvidia G71 [GeForce 7300GS] & Hardy 64 Bit
> To: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions" <ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Date: Monday, October 20, 2008, 8:07 AM
> Leonard Chatagnier wrote:
> 
> > --- On Sat, 10/18/08, Dave Woyciesjes
> <woyciesjes at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> >         
> >
> >     From: Dave Woyciesjes
> <woyciesjes at sbcglobal.net>
> >
> >               
> >
> >     Leonard Chatagnier wrote:
> >     > Have both xorg config files in /etc/X11/ with
> the xorg.config(set up 
> >     > with nvidia-xconfig or -settings) and
> contains the
> >     "nvidia-glx-new-envy" 
> >     > driver that I want to use(newest available)
> but I can't determine by 
> >     > googling if it
> >      will even work with my graphic card.  Have had
> many 
> >     > xorg.conf trial files set up with xfix,
> nvidia-settings, nvidia-xconfig, 
> >     > whatever, but when I try to enable Compiz via
> kde4.1, 
> >     > kmenu->System->Desktop Effects, it
> tells me to reboot so the driver
> >     is 
> >     > in effect to enable the desktop effects. 
> When I do that, whatever 
> >     > xorg.conf I'm using, it goes into low
> resolution mode again. Then have
> >
> >     > to fix xorg.conf again, PITA, with the
> process being reproducable ad 
> >     > infinitum. Virtually all the time I have to
> add a screen subsection 
> >     > specifying my monitors(LG L226WTQ Flatron
> Wide lcd) native resolution to 
> >     > get out of low res mode.  I'm fairly sure
> I must be doing something 
> >     > wrong but don't know what and the more I
> google the more uncertain I
> >     am 
> >     > of what to do. Specifically:
> >     > 1. Am I using the right driver for my
> graphics card(nvidia or 
> >     >
> >      nvidia-glx-new-envy)?
> >     > 2. When I bought the card, the tech man
> indicated it is a low end card 
> >     > but capable of running most games and
> graphics. Is it sufficient to run 
> >     > Compiz?
> >     > 3. What's the story on having two xorg
> configuration files?
> >     > Which one prevails or is somehow both used by
> X? Why can I remove the 
> >     > xorg.conf file, leaving only xorg.config, and
> X still works? This 
> >     > indicates to me that the nvidia-glx-new-envy
> driver is in effect.  Is 
> >     > that true?  Note: "nvidia" is
> driver in xorg.conf and 
> >     > "nvidia-glx-new-envy" is driver in
> xorg.config.
> >     > 4. How can I activate "Desktop
> Effects" or "Compiz"(I
> >     assume they are 
> >     > the same thing) without going into low
> graphics mode after rebooting? Do 
> >     > I need both xorg.conf and xorg.config? 
> Specifically, which nvidia 
> >     > driver do I need for my card(most advanced)?
> >     > Any guidance is most appreciated,
> >     >
> >      
> >
> >     	Check my postings from 9/25 to the mail list. I
> threw a BFG nVidia 7600 
> >     in one of my boxes, 32bit. I let Ubuntu install
> the restricted driver it 
> >     wanted. I had already installed the nVidia control
> panel for the 
> >     previous nVidia video card (I also added
> "gksudo" to the command line
> >
> >     for the nVidia Control Panel applet(?). This
> allowed the nVidia control 
> >     panel to save it's settings to xorg.conf;
> either append or overwrite.).
> >     	Next I found I needed compiz config settings
> manager. And that was it. 
> >     Flipping the cube, drawing fire on the screen,
> etc.... :)
> >
> >     -- 
> >     Hey Dave,
> >
> >     Just got around to reading the Sept, 2008 archives
> and your post referenced
> >     above. It looks like you solved your own problem.
> I don't have nvidia control
> >     panel on my kde4.1 kmenu unless you mean
> nvidia-settings or nvidia-xconfig
> >     which I have both used. Sorry, I had
> >      read your post before and didn't get 
> >     anything new out of it. I'm wondering
> though,did you get a xorg.config file 
> >     generated from what you did or just the usual
> xorg.conf
> >     file. Are you using the "nvidia" driver
> or perhaps one of the "nvidia-glx-new-*"
> >     drivers instead.  Thanks for your help.
> >     Now if someone could/would address some/all of my
> posted questions I may learn
> >     something needed regarding X configuration for my
> card.
> >     Thanks for any more replies.
> >
> >     Leonard Chatagnier
> >
> >     lenc5570 at sbcglobal.net
> >
> >               
> >
>     Okay. Here's the quick n dirty. I let the install
> use the default it 
> wanted. Then I let the Hardware Drivers install whatever
> proprietary 
> driver it thought was best. Then I used nvidia-settings to
> set it up. 
> The setup did not seem to persist through reboots, so I
> ended up editing 
> the menu item for nvidia-settings, added "gksudo"
> before the 
> nvidia-settings command. Once I got it tweaked the way I
> liked, I hit 
> the Save To X Configuration file, and chose to not merge. I
> assume it 
> did a complete replace. To get the advanced effects, I then
> had to 
> install compizconfig-settings-manager.
> 
So far, I'm with you except for having compizconfig-setings installed. It is now installed. I know see it one matter to activate compiz and totally another to configure it. Your post will help on this.  Thanks.

>     That was all, no editing of xorg.conf from the
> terminal. I just 
> looked, and I only have xorg.conf, no xorg.config.
> 
Well, I have manually edited xorg.conf several times some with succuess, some not. I guess I'm the only Ubutu Hardy user with xorg.confif file in my /etc/X11. I still wonder why I can run with xorg.conf deleted and X still works but no one has commented.

>     Now, currently I had to switch back to my nVidia Quadro
> NVS 400 ( 
> the powersupply couldn't keep up with the BFG), which
> is using nvidia in 
> the xorg.conf file (nvidia-glx).
>
Thanks to a new relatively upscale machine, I don't have that problem. Running 65C well below max. BTW, I couldn't get my card to work with nvidia-glx or nvidia-glx-new.
 
>     Let me know how you make out....
> 

well, I think I'm running at 1680x1050 native resolution but not sure how to verify that. I still have "nvidia" driver in xorg.conf and "nvidia-glx-new-envy in xorg.conf and if I remove xorg.conf I can't tell the difference in resolution. Wish I knew what I'm doing or better, what Hardy is doing.

Dave, thanks for the details I needed.  Much appreciated.

Leonard Chatagnier
lenc5570 at sbcglobal.net