Why is HAL being made the default when it's not ready?

Mario Vukelic mario.vukelic at dantian.org
Sat Nov 1 09:24:43 UTC 2008

On Sat, 2008-11-01 at 10:24 +0900, Dave M G wrote:
> The "OP" is fully aware of the situation, and so far this seems to be a 
> case of not getting any technical help, 

Well, prompted by your focusing your initial complaint everyone was
barking up the wrong tree, HAL, which will not lead anyone to a
solution. I just wanted to set the record straight and make people look
in the right spot for solutions

> but instead getting apologist 
> explanations for things that don't work.

Look, I didn't program it, I didn't release it, I have no need to be
apologist. I just tried to state the facts and offer help by a link to
the report that contains the correct description for the causes and
purports to offer a solution.

> Yes, I have seen all the bug reports and the release notes. They say 
> that "Users of tablet devices who wish to use other input features will 
> need to statically configure their input devices in /etc/X11/xorg.conf". 

So, it *should* work not worse than it ever has, right? While I would
certainly welcome if Wacoms worked perfectly with a GUI config and all,
if it is not an actual regression it's not all that bad, is it.

> Crazy me, I thought that meant I could configure xorg.conf and have 
> tablet functionality. The same level of acceptable functionality I've 
> had for about 2 years with previous Ubuntu builds.

That the supposed workaround does not seem to work for you in particular
sucks, but is a different problem I guess.

> As it turns out, though, any editing of xorg.conf, following the 
> directions provided, only ends up with crashing X so that I can't log in.

So far I haven't seen you post your xorg.conf or your Xorg.0.log, so
what is your posting trying to accomplish besides venting? And as
understandable as it is that you need to vent, here it is totally the
wrong place for that.

I'm sure people would try to helo as much they can if you give us the
information we need.

> So my original question stands - when is HAL going to be made to 
> actually work, or, failing that, are alternate options available?

Well, I dunno, when will a Wacom user test prereleases in time (the bug
[1] was opened Oct 12, way too late to do anything about it)? When will
Wacom sponsor development to support the hardware they sell for money?
When will a group of Wacom users alert Wacom to the problem and ask them
to do something about it?

Anyway, someone mentions in the bug report that Jaunty (Intrepid + 1)
will likely have full GUI config support for X, and I take it to mean
that this will include Wacom devices, but I#m not sure

[1] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/wacom-tools/+bug/282203

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