VVDQ : Alpine on Ubuntu??
Beartooth
Beartooth at swva.net
Wed Jan 9 16:52:28 UTC 2008
On Tue, 08 Jan 2008 17:33:53 -0400, Derek Broughton wrote:
> Beartooth wrote:
>
> phht. I have the same problem - she gets upgrades when I get around to
> it. There's no point to installing old software - it isn't more stable
> than Feisty, and barely more stable than Gutsy, it's just supported.
OK, so be it. After all, I do that with Fedora...
>>> I showed you how to do that in Synaptic...
>>
>> You did; I tried it; Synaptic crashed. Thought I posted that;
>
> Ah, of course. But synaptic didn't crash until _after_ you added all
> those mirrors.
True; but I had added them before I ever began to post to this
list.
>> Overall question: I expect my guru to confirm, any time now, that I've
>> already hosed my CentOS install altogether. If so, it sounds like I
>> might as well go ahead and re-install both -- and a third besides.
>> (Maybe a new (I think) specialty called LinguaFluxOS;
>
> I believe that's Tony Baldwin's - he's around here a lot.
Yes, definitely his. I found it by looking for a way to ask his
permission to pass on his description of that joke script he wrote.
I'm no translator -- tried it briefly, and quit as soon as I
found a steady job. It's *very* hard work -- harder, not easier, if you
know the languages really well, and mean to do it right -- and usually
ill-paid.
But I am a linguist and historian of literature and of tongues,
and there should be stuff in there of interest to me. I'll at least try
out his live CD before I do another install.
> [...]Anybody can hose a partition when they're installing an
> OS :-) However, I doubt that's really happened. You've probably just
> not got a way to boot to it.
That is the hope, of course; I haven't yet heard from my guru.
Fwiw, when I tried to mount the partition that CentOS apparently
has to be on, I got a response from mount saying "special device /dev/
VolGroup00/LogVol00 does not exist." That's what has me thinking "hosed."
>> Any hints on getting the second one to recognize the first, and the
>> third to recognize both others?
>
> Ubuntu's installer usually recognizes other Debian-type systems and
> Windows, but I don't know about Fedora/CentOS.
Hmmm ....
I do know -- from qtparted, gparted, and several commands my guru
has had me give -- that that hard drive *is* partitioned now, and in
proportions to take three OSs.
I could do the partitioning over, with Knoppix or a live CD of
Gparted, or of Qtparted if one is available -- *before* I do any more
installs of any sort. But I suspect I'm better off letting well enough
alone.
Incidentally, how is Ubuntu for up*grading* online?
Fedora *can* do "yum upgrade," and people do occasionally report
success with it; but they're always people a lot more technically capable
than I am, and it's officially *not* recommended.
I always burn a new CD or DVD, as *is* recommended. My guess is
that the same will be true of Ubuntu -- right?
> If the various distros install their boot loaders to the superblock of
> their respective partitions, then the grub in the MBR can just chainload
> to all of them (ie - the /boot/menu/grub.lst file will use exactly the
> same format to get to Linux partitions as it does to get to Windows).
> Odds are at least fair to middling that at least _one_ distro isn't
> going to get found automatically, no matter what order you install
> them...
OK; I can get help locally with that part. But I don't fancy
wiping an existing install (again, if I have wiped one).
After the grief it gave me to try to slog through that alternate
CD -- it assumes lots more than I know, and my guesses were so bad that I
had to hit the reset button a couple times before I managed to stumble
all the way to an install -- I can't say I'll be surprised if I turn out
to have hosed what I had before.
I want to thank you profusely for your patient efforts so far.
--
Beartooth Staffwright, PhD, Neo-Redneck Linux Convert
Fedora 8; Alpine 0.99999, Pan 0.132; Privoxy 3.0.6;
Dillo 0.8.6, Galeon 2.0.3, Epiphany 2.20, Opera 9.24, Firefox 2.0
Remember I know precious little of what I am talking about.
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