VVDQ : Alpine on Ubuntu??

[Beartooth]

On Tue, 08 Jan 2008 15:17:00 -0400, Derek Broughton wrote:

> Beartooth Testbedder wrote:
[...] 
>> What I installed was 6.06 LTS *alternate* (because CentOS was hogging
>> the whole hard drive, and I didn't want to blow it away, but end up
>> with a triple boot. I couldn't make regular 6.06 do that -- much to my
>> surprise.)
> 
> That's normal.  The LiveCDs will install to an available partition, but
> if you want to do anything more complicated you use the alternate CD,
> but there have been 3 releases since that one.

	Very very strange. I was on an Ubuntu site (naturally, to 
download Ubuntu) and thought I was getting the most recent LTS. 
(Remember, one large part of my purpose is to find something my wife 
won't have to do much to keep up, when I'm beyond doing it -- and do it 
now, before there's any hurry about it.)
 
>> But when alpine wouldn't take, I went looking for more repos; I think I
>> ended up adding all in the US -- and it still didn't take.
> 
> It suspect you didn't add any new _repositories_, you added mirrors.
> They're all identical (or at least, should be).
>> 
>>> Your choices: install a more recent Ubuntu; download a copy of alpine
>>> from packages.ubuntu.com; install with dpkg, and then do "aptitude -f
>>> install" to fix the dependencies;
>> 
>> Went there, looked under Edgy, then under Mail; no Alpine, nor even
>> Pine.
> 
> Maybe I should have just said "Gutsy".  There's no point installing Edgy
> - which is almost as old as Dapper, and almost out-of-support.  Couldn't
> you just have used the "search" function?
> 
> http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?
keywords=alpine&searchon=names&subword=1&version=all&release=all
> - edgy-backports (mail):
> - feisty (mail):
> - gutsy (mail):
> - hardy (mail):

	Must've been running on too little coffee; I didn't see the 
search. And I do constantly confuse these Apple-inspired (?) release 
names all the time -- RH/Fedora has them, but people mostly ignore them, 
in my experience.

>>> or reinstall the alpine .deb you tried before,
>> 
>>> and run  "aptitude -f install".
>> 
>> Oops! I get :
> 
> I warned you this wasn't a good solution...
> 
>> btth at SblzUb:~$ aptitude -f install
>> Reading package lists... Error!
>> E: Dynamic MMap ran out of room

	So you did; I thought I was responding to that by mentioning that 
Synaptic had crashed.

> Google would have explained that to you in short order.  It's an old an
> known error, but nobody has an interest in fixing it as it invariably
> means you're trying to do something you shouldn't.

	I suppose it would -- but not half so well, and probably 
altogether without the comment, which is very valuable. Thank you!

>>> My preferences would be in that order - the first is initially time
>>> consuming, but guaranteed to work, either of other options might not
>>> work anyway (if it can't resolve the dependencies from the dapper
>>> release).
>> 
>> My guess is there must be some way to get into that repo list, dump the
>> extraneous ones I shouldn't've added, and enable the universal.
> 
> I showed you how to do that in Synaptic...

	You did; I tried it; Synaptic crashed. Thought I posted that; 
sorry.
 
	Overall question: I expect my guru to confirm, any time now, that 
I've already hosed my CentOS install altogether. If so, it sounds like I 
might as well go ahead and re-install both -- and a third besides. (Maybe 
a new (I think) specialty called LinguaFluxOS; more likely Fedora -- 
which generally does pretty well about tolerating pre-existent installs.)

	Any hints on getting the second one to recognize the first, and 
the third to recognize both others?


-- 
Beartooth Staffwright, PhD, Neo-Redneck Linux Convert
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Remember I know precious little of what I am talking about.