VVDQ : Alpine on Ubuntu??

Derek Broughton news at pointerstop.ca
Tue Jan 8 19:17:00 UTC 2008


Beartooth Testbedder wrote:

> On Tue, 08 Jan 2008 12:22:15 -0400, Derek Broughton wrote:
> 
>> Beartooth Testbedder wrote:
> [...]
>> OK, so you're using the really, really, old release (which also explains
>> why
>> you have nothing in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/).  So maybe alpine doesn't
>> even exist there.
> 
> What I installed was 6.06 LTS *alternate* (because CentOS was hogging the
> whole hard drive, and I didn't want to blow it away, but end up with a
> triple boot. I couldn't make regular 6.06 do that -- much to my surprise.

That's normal.  The LiveCDs will install to an available partition, but if
you want to do anything more complicated you use the alternate CD, but
there have been 3 releases since that one.
> 
> But when alpine wouldn't take, I went looking for more repos; I think I
> ended up adding all in the US -- and it still didn't take.

It suspect you didn't add any new _repositories_, you added mirrors. 
They're all identical (or at least, should be).
> 
>> Your choices: install a more recent Ubuntu; download a copy of alpine
>> from packages.ubuntu.com; install with dpkg, and then do "aptitude -f
>> install" to fix the dependencies;
> 
> Went there, looked under Edgy, then under Mail; no Alpine, nor even Pine.

Maybe I should have just said "Gutsy".  There's no point installing Edgy -
which is almost as old as Dapper, and almost out-of-support.  Couldn't you
just have used the "search" function?

http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=alpine&searchon=names&subword=1&version=all&release=all
- edgy-backports (mail): 
- feisty (mail): 
- gutsy (mail): 
- hardy (mail): 
> 
>> or reinstall the alpine .deb you tried before,
> 
>> and run  "aptitude -f install".
> 
> Oops! I get :

I warned you this wasn't a good solution...

> btth at SblzUb:~$ aptitude -f install
> Reading package lists... Error!
> E: Dynamic MMap ran out of room

Google would have explained that to you in short order.  It's an old an
known error, but nobody has an interest in fixing it as it invariably means
you're trying to do something you shouldn't.
 
>> My preferences would be in that order -
>> the first is initially time consuming, but guaranteed to work, either of
>> other options might not work anyway (if it can't resolve the
>> dependencies from the dapper release).
> 
> My guess is there must be some way to get into that repo list, dump the
> extraneous ones I shouldn't've added, and enable the universal.

I showed you how to do that in Synaptic...

> Btw, here is a result from either an earlier post,  or more likely a draft 
> for one that I'm still working on; it seems to say that the universal, but
> *not* the source code part (if src means that) *is* enabled. Doesn't dpkg
> default to most recent??

No.  This isn't Debian, which has a "stable" branch always pointing to the
current release.  Ubuntu requires you to upgrade your sources.  You _could_
just change all occurrences of "dapper" to "gutsy", but I guarantee that
you'd spend longer doing that than just installing a fresh version of
gutsy.  You haven't _been_ in dependency hell yet :-)
-- 
derek





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