eclipse-pydev: New upstream release 1.3.13 avaible

Derek Broughton news at
Tue Feb 19 15:41:00 UTC 2008

Kristian Rink wrote:

> Am Mon, 18 Feb 2008 21:59:41 -0800
> schrieb Nick Stinemates <nick at>:
>> I think for packages such as these, a generic way to install it in an
>> Ubuntu like fashion -- i.e, putting it in proper/guessable directory
>> structure -- is the draw to having it done through Synaptic.
> I am definitely torn about that, absolutely unsure whether having
> an application platform like Eclipse installable using syn(apt)ic is
> desirable. Imagine this situation:
> - Somebody used to working with Eclipse moves from Windows to Ubuntu
> and discovers that Ubuntu In Its Undisputable Greatness already comes
> with Eclipse in its repository. "apt-get install eclipse-sdk", and
> things seem fine.

Hey, we must be looking for a name for Hardy+1 - IIUG works for me!

Perhaps what it really needs is for apt to be able to say, for any package
with predictable directory structures, "Ah, there is a locally installed
copy at version X, let's not install for now".  This would be fairly simple
in the package install scripts, but difficult to do before downloading the

> - However, by then, one is possibly used to working with the Eclipse
> Update Manager, so possibly after installing the Eclipse SDK via
> synaptic, making use of this facility provided by Eclipse to install
> some additional features and uninstall some others.

>> I believe I misread the initial tone, and is definitely why I encased
>> it in <rant> tag's as well ;)

We're all friends, again!  :-)

> From that point of view, I wonder
> whether not having Eclipse available via the Ubuntu repos would be a
> better solution than having (no offense to those who build the Eclipse
> packages) a half-baked solution that breaks either apt or Eclipse
> Update Manager. 

I wonder, but the real problem is that everybody and their dog designs their
own package update system.  Whatever happened to the concept of reuse?  If
Eclipse (and others) would just use .deb formats, it would be a perfect
world and we'd all be happy (not to mention rich & beautiful).

The project I mostly use Eclipse with is maven based.  That adds a whole new
complication as it continually downloads gigabytes of java packages I
already have from Ubuntu...

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