root password?

Mario Spinthiras mspinthiras at
Tue Feb 5 16:34:20 UTC 2008

Though the first thing I do on a machine I log onto is a sudo bash in order
to have control of the machine , I still refuse to set root passwords as
this gives the option of bruteforcing or actually logging on as root
(disabling remote root login does not save you from all of the malicious
users out there). Of course we wouldn't use sudo this and sudo that all the

On Tue, Feb 5, 2008 at 5:48 PM, Pete Clapham <w.clapham at> wrote:

>  Uh --  one can get used to the fact that the prompt is different :-)
> David Koski wrote:
> On Monday 04 February 2008 07:31, Derek Broughton wrote:
>  Pete Clapham wrote:
>  The root account /is/ enabled, but it isn't given a password, so you
> can't access it directly.  What you have to do is to sudo passwd root
> and enter a password.  Since you've zapped your sudoers file, you
> probably can't do that.  Personally, I much prefer to do a su and know
> I'm a superuser
>  The point is, that you'd be pretty much unique if, having done "su"
> you "knew" you were a superuser.  People do that, and then forget...
>  I would not call that unique.  There are many distros that have passwords for
> root by default.  Furthermore, the "advantage" of using sudo diminishes as
> one gets used to using it and does so without thinking.  I prefer to be
> mindful about what I am doing using the root account and develop good
> habbits, much like the habbit of saving changes a file editor that date back
> to my CP/M days (after loosing too much work).  Yes, I have done "rm -rf"
> where it recursed to the root directory but I doubt that would have been
> prevented by sudo.
> Regards,
> David Koskidavid at
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Mario A. Spinthiras
Nicosia , Cyprus
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