Connecting to ftp with File Browser
Ray Parrish
crp at cmc.net
Sat Dec 6 07:23:22 UTC 2008
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>>>>>> Paul Johnson wrote:
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>>>>>>> On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 3:03 AM, Ray Parrish <crp at cmc.net> wrote:
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>>>>>>>> Hello,
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>>>>>>>> I've added a connection to my web site ftp server in File Browser, but
>>>>>>>> it's not working right. I selected "ftp with login" as type of connection.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> For some reason it will not show any folders. All I get is the top level
>>>>>>>> folder which contains only a small text file which is a note from my
>>>>>>>> hosting service about enabling Frontpage extensions.
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>>>>>>>> I'm being hosted on a Windows server, is this the problem?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'd really like to try out this method of access to my site, but if it's
>>>>>>>> not possible it no big deal as I have a good ftp program which connects
>>>>>>>> to the site no problem.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Later, Ray Parrish
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>>>>>>> I wonder if your web server is actually running ftp, rather than a
>>>>>>> transfer over ssh (sftp). Have you made sure that the server
>>>>>>> actually accepts old fashioned ftp connections? Most won't, these
>>>>>>> days. Well, the commercial servers I belong to won't.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It could be that the "good ftp program" you are using is not actually
>>>>>>> using the ftp protocol...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think you can check in a terminal if you try to run the real ftp
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ftp your.host.name.here
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>>>>>>> and it will come back and ask you for name and password.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If that works, then the web browser should be able to connect there
>>>>>>> too, and I bet nautilus or konqueror will too, if you get the magic
>>>>>>> incantation.
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>>>>>>> If my guess is correct, and the ftp connection is not allowed, then
>>>>>>> you need to connect with an ssh filesystem, or gftp or filezilla with
>>>>>>> the connection type set to ssh.
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>>>>>>> If you show that ftp actually does work, then it will be easier to
>>>>>>> figure why the file manager is not connecting.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> pj
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>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Well, I can log in with ftp in terminal no problem. Here is the output I
>>>>>> got -
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ray at ray-desktop:~$ ftp www.rayslinks.com
>>>>>> Connected to www.rayslinks.com.
>>>>>> 220-Microsoft FTP Service
>>>>>> 220 NTXPWUS59
>>>>>> Name (www.rayslinks.com:ray): u********
>>>>>> 331 Password required for u********.
>>>>>> Password:
>>>>>> 230-FTP Server
>>>>>> 230 User u******** logged in.
>>>>>> Remote system type is Windows_NT.
>>>>>> ftp> ls
>>>>>> 200 PORT command successful.
>>>>>> 150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for /bin/ls.
>>>>>> 01-14-08 07:43PM <DIR> _db_import
>>>>>> 02-25-05 04:43AM 807 1and1logo.gif
>>>>>> 04-03-08 09:14AM <DIR> aspnet_client
>>>>>> 01-14-08 07:43PM <DIR> db
>>>>>> 11-27-08 04:18PM 4806 error404.html
>>>>>> 12-02-08 11:00PM <DIR> links
>>>>>> 01-14-08 07:43PM <DIR> logs
>>>>>> 11-22-08 09:14PM <DIR> Poetry
>>>>>> 226 Transfer complete.
>>>>>> ftp>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As you can see I was able to get a folder list with no problem. I have
>>>>>> changed the user number to *'s to protect my information. Any ideas why
>>>>>> it will not work in Nautilus? [be sure to have a look at my earlier post
>>>>>> about the odd folder structure it has]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Later, Ray Parrish
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>>>>> Can you paste the output command of pwd instead of ls? Thanks
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>>>> Yes, I can, and here it is.
>>>>
>>>> ray at ray-desktop:~$ ftp www.rayslinks.com
>>>> Connected to www.rayslinks.com.
>>>> 220-Microsoft FTP Service
>>>> 220 NTXPWUS59
>>>> Name (www.rayslinks.com:ray): u********
>>>> 331 Password required for u********.
>>>> Password:
>>>> 230-FTP Server
>>>> 230 User u******** logged in.
>>>> Remote system type is Windows_NT.
>>>> ftp> pwd
>>>> 257 "/u********" is current directory.
>>>> ftp>
>>>>
>>>> As you can see from those results, I am initially in a folder named with
>>>> my username for the account when in Terminal. I have tried to add this
>>>> folder name to the url in the Nautilus location box, and Nautilus
>>>> returns that it cannot find the folder. I'm using copy and paste to
>>>> insure I do not misspell it.
>>>>
>>>> However, I know from looking at the folder structure within FileZilla,
>>>> that the text file I can see in Nautilus is actually in the root folder
>>>> of the account above that folder, so Nautilus doesn't automatically
>>>> connect to the username folder on the server.
>>>>
>>>> Later, Ray Parrish
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>>> Hello again,
>>>
>>> Just a couple of notes that may make a difference here. I have two
>>> domains hosted in the same location on the server, and the hosting
>>> service has me create and specify a folder from which to load each
>>> domain name. The actual folder hierarchy is as follows -
>>>
>>> /u********/links [this is where www.rayslinks.com resides]
>>> /u********/Poetry [here I have www.writingsoftheschizophrenic.com]
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>>> I think this could be confusing Nautilus somehow. I've tried to use one
>>> of the folders below /links on the end of the url to see if that works,
>>> and it returns not found as well.
>>>
>>> Later, Ray Parrish
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>> I got it! Finally, after trying all kinds of variations on the url I was
>> able to load it with the following one.
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>> ftp://u********@www.rayslinks.com/u********/links
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>> This loaded the file list at last! 8-) Now I can use Nautilus to upload
>> files if I want to. Thanks for all the help!
>>
>> Later, Ray Parrish
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> Just as a heads up, I would change that url for your ftp server now that
> it is posted to a public mailing list.
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> You do know how to do this,don't you? No put down intended. But I have
> wasted a couple of websites by posting too much info.
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That's not the actual url, all of the characters and numbers in my
username are replaced by the *'s in that url as shown, so people would
have to guess what the *'s represent, then also guess my password to
gain access. Not too likely.
Later, Ray Parrish
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