What is wrong with firestarter?

Knapp magick.crow at gmail.com
Wed Aug 27 13:02:56 UTC 2008


On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 2:56 PM, Knapp <magick.crow at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 1:41 PM, Johnny Rosenberg
> <gurus.knugum at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 2008/8/27 Brian McKee <brian.mckee at gmail.com>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 9:05 AM, Knapp <magick.crow at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > I read something here about Firestarter not being so good to use. What
>>> > is the problem with it? I use it and like it so far but don't want to
>>> > get hacked because of using it over something better.
>>>
>>> I recently wrote here that I didn't like firestarter because it didn't
>>> always do what *I* expected it to do.   I'll freely admit it might be
>>> *me* that's the issue, not firestarter.  I haven't used it in a while
>>> so maybe it's even improved.  I do recall having issues with it not
>>> starting even though the documentation said only the GUI wasn't
>>> starting - but that was roughly around the release of Dapper.
>>>
>>> At the risk of giving an essay response where one line was requested -
>>> I think there are two points you should keep in mind.
>>>
>>> One - You don't need to get to excited about firewalls on a regular
>>> Ubuntu desktop unless you like experimenting with stuff that isn't
>>> installed by default.  A firewall stops access to a port - but unless
>>> there's something running on that port it's a moot point.  That's why
>>> Ubuntu ships without a running firewall after all.  They only come in
>>> handy to cover up your mistakes so to speak - if you leave a port open
>>> by accident (maybe you didn't even know that program you installed
>>> opened one!) it'll keep it private.  It's not a cure-all.
>>>
>>> Two - Never ever trust a firewall without verification!   Like
>>> backups, if you don't test your firewall, you might as well not have
>>> one  (because you quite possibly DON'T have one!).
>>> Learn how to use tools like nmap <http://nmap.org> or `man nmap` and
>>> Shields Up <https://www.grc.com/x/ne.dll?bh0bkyd2> and interpret what
>>> they mean.  Then you can use any of the firewall tools with
>>> confidence, because you KNOW they work.
>>>
>>> Brian
>>>
>> If I can ask a related question without creating a new thread, please read
>> the next sentence, otherwise just ignore me:
>> Is it correct that, if I just want to configure my firewall once and for
>> all, I could just install Firestarter (or one of the alternatives), do my
>> settings and, if my settings are good, uninstall Firestarter (or the
>> alternative) and never have to use it again, unless I have to change my
>> settings?
>> J.R.
>
> As the starter of this tread, I have NP with it moving on to how best
> to use these programs.
>
> To the other post, I have SSH and Apache both set up and running for
> home use. Sometimes I use other tools also like torrent, IRC and skype
> and local in house networks too. Being a relative Newbie to all this
> network stuff keeps me in fear but how else do you learn?
>
> I use firestarted and have tested it with those probe sites, got all
> good ratings.
>
> I have no clue about nmap but will read the man if it makes any sense
> (ever try and read man sudoer? Nightmare!).
>

I just rescanned my computer with the shield site and it found 2 open
ports 22 and 80. I know that 22 only works with keys so it should be
safe but what about Apache? Then there is the bit about ping. Is there
anyreason I should NOT turn it off?



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Douglas E Knapp

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