(New to Kubuntu/ Linux) Update/ upgrade difficulties Thunderbird.

[Derek Broughton]

NoOp wrote:

> On 11/21/2007 11:53 AM, Derek Broughton wrote:
>> NoOp wrote:
>> 
>>> Perhaps the solution to alleviating future FUD would be to
>>> change the revision to 2.0.0.9 in order to maintain the revision
>>> numbering in the source product.
>> 
>> But it _isn't_ 2.0.0.9 - it's 2.0.0.8 plus security patches.  In this
>> case, that might not really make a difference, but often upstream applies
>> their security patches to _their_ latest stable release, which is not
>> always the same thing as downstream's stable version.
> 
> Agreed. But applying small security patches to a source product doesn't
> necessarily mean that the Ubuntu package is updated to a source package,
> even many revisions later.
> 
> I give you Ubuntu's OpenOffice on Feisty for example. OOo on Feisty is
> at 2.2 while Gutsy is at 2.3. There are serious problems with (U)OOo
> 2.2, and still quite a few problems with (U)OOo 2.3. While both may have
> applicable security patches applied, both do not have some features that
> the OpenOffice.org version does (Address Data Sources, Wizards & Base
> are a good example). Then again, (U)OOo have some features that OOo does
> not have (MS Works import filter is an example).

I thought that was _my_ point :-)  You suggested the OOo maintainer should
have changed the revision number to 2.0.0.9, but it's _really_ 2.0.0.8 with
the same security changes that OOo applied to 2.0.0.9.  I've got no idea if
2.0.0.9 includes anything _but_ security changes, so it could be that
they'd really be the same, but I think it's right for the maintainers to
note that they're only applying patches to the specific version Ubuntu
supports.
> 
> Point being is that the user cannot assume that their (U)OOo version 2.2
> is the same as OpenOffice.org's 2.2 or the latest 2.3. Nor can the user
> reasonably expect that (U)TB 2.0.0.8 is the same as Mozilla Thunderbird
> 2.0.0.9. That said; it's nice to have a choice :-)

Absolutely - if you want 2.0.0.9, you have to go to Mozilla.
> 
> Followups set to ubuntu.user.

-- 
derek