sa-learn

[John Dangler]

On Fri, 2007-03-30 at 19:40 -0700, NoOp wrote:
> On 03/30/2007 07:28 PM, John Dangler wrote:
> > On Fri, 2007-03-30 at 18:15 -0700, NoOp wrote:
> >> On 03/30/2007 05:16 PM, John Dangler wrote:
> >> > Well, I've been moving messages to 'Possible_Spam' for the last 6 hours,
> >> > and running:
> >> > sa-learn --spam --mbox ./Possible_Spam
> >> > 
> >> > against that mailbox...
> >> > 
> >> > On average, I still get 60 messages every hour which I recognize as
> >> > spam, yet sa-learn doesn't seem to get it yet...
> >> > 
> >> > Is there a point in time where SA begins to actually take a shot at
> >> > handling this?
> >> > 
> >> > I'd like to teach it --ham as well, but the last time I ran this against
> >> > my Inbox, it said that it read 3,200 messages (which is everything in
> >> > mbox, including the spam, and those directories aren't listed _under_
> >> > inbox).
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> 
> >> Since installing SA yesterday, I've received 40 more spams; every one
> >> except the one that I mentioned in my other post yesterday has been
> >> automatically flagged as spam and automatically moved to the Junk
> >> folder. I've received no false positives yet.
> >> 
> >> Note:
> >> - Running Feisty
> >> - Evolution 2.10.0
> > Edgy
> > Evolution 2.8.1
> > 
> > Well, maybe I'm doing something (or note doing something) that you
> > aren't/are... but I just looked in junk, and there are almost 1600
> > messages in there... WOW! (only 3 marked as spam)... Could I just empty
> > the junk folder and see if all of this activity is SA and not leftover
> > from me putting them there?
> > (If that's really SA's doing - even though it's not marking them all
> > explicitly yet, I'm really impressed with the performance...)
> 
> If they are there, they are most likely spam. Just click on one and see
> if the "Not-Junk" lights up. I'd delete them all, empty your trash,
> close Evo & start fresh. Can't hurt & you'll certainly soon find out if
> it is working.
> 
> BTW: do you have the catch-all turned on for your email address? If so,
> turn it off & I'm sure that you'll stop receiving so many.
Right!  I selected one of the junk messages, and the 'not junk' did
light... I emptied junk and trash, and restarted Evo to see what happens
when everything there is clean.

Since I don't see anywhere within account preferences or mail
preferences to set catch-all, I'm guessing I don't have this set (or
don't understand where to find it)...

I had a rule that I found on one of the many pages I was reading that
pipes every email to the spamassassin command, and if the return is not
0, to mark it read and move it to a different folder that I had set up.
I'm guessing I no longer need this rule (it didn't ever move any
messages to that folder anyway).  

On a more general note of catching spam, is it even necessary to have
rules written in Evo, if I :
a) Setup a folder within my mbox to move messages that I want marked as
spam, but have not been caught yet by SA
b) setup a cron job to run sa-learn --spam on that folder, say, once
every hour?

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