weird update problems

[Zachary Stern]

For me it IS about always having the newest version, because even though I
use linux for work, I like to have the newest apps on my personal computer
just to check out the new features. I do a backup before any major patching
just in case.

On 2/8/07, John Dangler <jdangler at atlantic.net> wrote:
>
> On Thu, 2007-02-08 at 19:15 -0500, Ed Smits wrote:
> > Can someone explain to me this weird obsession with updating as soon
> > as it's offered, and when it doesn't work you actually try to clean up
> > your kernels? You have systems that are working well I assume, just
> > leave well enough alone until things get sorted out. I have production
> > Sun servers at work that haven't been patched in 2 years - if it's
> > working well why risk screwing things up? Unless there is a specific
> > problem and a patch to fix it we leave well enough alone.
> >
> > ED
> If you're running Solaris, I would believe it.  But not SunOS...
> When they said patch, you patched - or else...
>
> But I do agree on the Linux front.  But I do think it's part of 2 things
> - 1) Hold over from Win... 2) Being dutiful end users, when they're told
> to patch the OS, they believe (in faith) that the dev/maintainers won't
> run them down a blind alley.
> I'll try and keep up with any updates, so long as I can read the changes
> that have taken place, and they make sense.  I've found (more times than
> I'd care to count) updates on the repo's with absolutely no description
> of change at all, just a repeat of the description of what the package
> is...  That always makes me suspicious to begin with.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 2/8/07, Gabriel Dragffy <dragffy at yandex.ru> wrote:
> > > SteVe Cook wrote:
> > > > Gabriel Dragffy wrote:
> > > >> Zachary Stern wrote:
> > > >>> Longshot, but maybe your cdrom drive is bad and so the install
> isn't
> > > >>> copying all files properly.
> > > >>>
> > > >> I really don't think so, because originally it had edgy installed,
> and
> > > >> it had been working without a hitch for the last three months. Only
> > > >> today when I tried to update it did I get problems. This escalated
> to
> > > >> the point of me reinstalling. Something weirder is going on,
> surely.
> > > >> Those packages referred to by the virtual package don't even exist.
> Have
> > > >> the repos been hacked or summat?
> > > >>
> > > >> Gabe
> > > >>
> > > >  From the home page of the forums
> > > >
> > > > Latest Kernel Update Issues
> > > > We have been seeing a lot of issues with the latest kernel update.
> If
> > > > you are having issues please see the following thread.
> > > > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=356408
> > > >
> > > > the thread is very helpful apart from confirming there is a problem.
> > > >
> > > > SteVe
> > > >
> > >
> > > Gosh, I hadn't seen that. Bit worrying - I haven't seen any official
> > > info on this, thought there could at least be an official
> announcement.
> > > What a shocking problem, linked with the kernel, no less. It seems
> like
> > > the first poster did the same as me, ended up removing offending
> > > packages and then finding that one could not install a kernel.
> Kerneless
> > > linux is not very useful. Not only a problem with Edgy repos but also
> > > Dapper, this is getting on for being an unforgivable faux pas IMHO.
> > >
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