weird update problems

[John Dangler]

On Thu, 2007-02-08 at 19:15 -0500, Ed Smits wrote:
> Can someone explain to me this weird obsession with updating as soon
> as it's offered, and when it doesn't work you actually try to clean up
> your kernels? You have systems that are working well I assume, just
> leave well enough alone until things get sorted out. I have production
> Sun servers at work that haven't been patched in 2 years - if it's
> working well why risk screwing things up? Unless there is a specific
> problem and a patch to fix it we leave well enough alone.
> 
> ED
If you're running Solaris, I would believe it.  But not SunOS...
When they said patch, you patched - or else...

But I do agree on the Linux front.  But I do think it's part of 2 things
- 1) Hold over from Win... 2) Being dutiful end users, when they're told
to patch the OS, they believe (in faith) that the dev/maintainers won't
run them down a blind alley.
I'll try and keep up with any updates, so long as I can read the changes
that have taken place, and they make sense.  I've found (more times than
I'd care to count) updates on the repo's with absolutely no description
of change at all, just a repeat of the description of what the package
is...  That always makes me suspicious to begin with.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 2/8/07, Gabriel Dragffy <dragffy at yandex.ru> wrote:
> > SteVe Cook wrote:
> > > Gabriel Dragffy wrote:
> > >> Zachary Stern wrote:
> > >>> Longshot, but maybe your cdrom drive is bad and so the install isn't
> > >>> copying all files properly.
> > >>>
> > >> I really don't think so, because originally it had edgy installed, and
> > >> it had been working without a hitch for the last three months. Only
> > >> today when I tried to update it did I get problems. This escalated to
> > >> the point of me reinstalling. Something weirder is going on, surely.
> > >> Those packages referred to by the virtual package don't even exist. Have
> > >> the repos been hacked or summat?
> > >>
> > >> Gabe
> > >>
> > >  From the home page of the forums
> > >
> > > Latest Kernel Update Issues
> > > We have been seeing a lot of issues with the latest kernel update. If
> > > you are having issues please see the following thread.
> > > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=356408
> > >
> > > the thread is very helpful apart from confirming there is a problem.
> > >
> > > SteVe
> > >
> >
> > Gosh, I hadn't seen that. Bit worrying - I haven't seen any official
> > info on this, thought there could at least be an official announcement.
> > What a shocking problem, linked with the kernel, no less. It seems like
> > the first poster did the same as me, ended up removing offending
> > packages and then finding that one could not install a kernel. Kerneless
> > linux is not very useful. Not only a problem with Edgy repos but also
> > Dapper, this is getting on for being an unforgivable faux pas IMHO.
> >
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