Kubuntu 6.06 , Firefox. install

Fri Sep 22 06:37:28 UTC 2006

    Hello Tod and others,

Thanks. Have not been with the other machine yet to see
the standard install.

I see the whole Linux domain as a Great world wide effort and
know a little how difficult it is to write a program such as
Alsa, a program to use sound cards for example, with 10's
of different cards out in the market place. Most manufacturers
of these cards not willing to talk to Linux software writers.

In case of MS they let people put the Logo's on their gadgets
only if MS has tested that particular item to be able to work
with that particular version of their sw. A totally different
world.

SO it is not my idea to criticize pope putting in their valuable
time and effort to write software without much,if any
official rewards.

On the other hand Kubuntu is not XP! (yet) And If potential users
go out to a software store and buy a USD 39 or USD 69 colored
box with some version of Linux, they could be in for a big
surprise and might be lost as Linux users for ever.
Again my opinion.

thanks again and regards

Rein Smit

Tod Merley wrote:

> Replies below (top posting here not preferred):
> 
> On 9/21/06, Rein A. Smit <rein0zn at ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> 
>>   Hi Tod,
>>
>>
>>Thanks for info.
>>
>>  I am not at the machine with Kubuntu, so will answer
>>whether Firefox is there or not. But I looked for it
>>whether it had been installed with the standard install
>>and did not find it. Could be well my mistake.
>>
>>Let me address the Ubuntu/Kubuntu issue.
>>
>>I wanted to put Ubuntu on an old Pentium 200 MHz with 1024
>>Mb. Again, I knew that would be marginal but did not think
>>it would be THAT marginal. Never got it to work in Xwindows.
>>
>>So then I went to the P4 machine and as my previous experience is
>>with KDE, I decided for the Kubuntu version.
>>
>>I am well aware that there is Office and Spread sheets and tons
>>of other programs. What I intended to say is that if I click on
>>a .pdf or .doc or mp3 or what have you, as an active link in a
>>WEB page, I want the browser to be able to handle that. ( such
>>as open Adobe reader or some .ppt reader, mp3 player etc ) without
>>having to download the file then open Adobe by hand.
>>
>>    http://www.konqueror.org/
>>
>>Konqueror does do these functions I noticed now.
>>
>>Firefox is, as is Netscape and IE with all its other drawbacks.
>>
>>Will get back on whether Firefox is installed or not. If nothing
>>else, on a version to be used on the WEB, I should think that a browser
>>as Firefox, would be listed under "Internet", and it is not in Kubuntu.
>>
>>Regards,
>>
>>Rein
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Tod Merley wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Reply below:
>>>
>>>On 9/21/06, Rein A. Smit <rein0zn at ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>   Hi Tod,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Thanks for answering.
>>>>
>>>>Let me make first some observations.
>>>>
>>>>I guess, you are right on the Browser. I have been using Firefox
>>>>on all my windows machines and had it also, I believe, at one time
>>>>on a Debian or SuSe10.2 machine. If I remember well, it came as part
>>>>of the installation.
>>>>
>>>>I have here some 1600 pages from three Linux books and out of those
>>>>1600 pages text, there are as much as 5 pages on Firefox, nothing
>>>>on installation what so ever. Just wondering why that is.
>>>>
>>>>Also I thought that Firefox came out of the Linux world so to say.
>>>>But that appears not to be true.
>>>>
>>>>I really like to get a Linux machine that will do all the tricks
>>>>I want while serving, pdf's, doc's ppt's, sound formats, image formats
>>>>etc etc. This is what I have with here Netscape7.2 on my windows
>>>>machines I never have used Explorer on the WEB.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Here is the "flame" part. I would think that if Ubuntu is or were
>>>>such a replacement for XP or even Win98 that I am still using here,
>>>>these capabilities would be part of Ubuntu or would be easy to add
>>>>or integrate?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>My computer here, dedicated for Linux, is a P4 with 256 MB at
>>>>the moment, will get 512 or even 1024. It works fine with
>>>>Konqueror.
>>>>
>>>>Kubuntu, the for free CD installed in 20 minutes or so.
>>>>
>>>>Looking forward to your reply.
>>>>
>>>>Regards
>>>>
>>>>Rein Smit
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Tod Merley wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>On 9/21/06, Rein A. Smit <rein0zn at ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Hi All,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I tried to install Firefox 1.5.0.7 with the above procedure.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>When extracting:  tar -C etc etc
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I get a display full of garbage and this goes on for over 30 minutes....
>>>>>>plus lots of Hard drive activity.Rein Smit
>>>>>>http://www.puppylinux.com/
>>>>>>Obvious something not working. Any idea's, please?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Is this a viable procedure for Kubuntu?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Has anybody been able to install firefox in Kubuntu?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Rein Smit
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>Hi Rein A. Smit!
>>>>>
>>>>>What hardware are you trying this on?
>>>>>
>>>>>Why do you want to do that?
>>>>>
>>>>>I note that the version numbers in the tutorial are a few versions
>>>>>back.  I wonder if the Ubuntu current is "just as fast" as the
>>>>>separate build.
>>>>>
>>>>>Seems like a lot of trouble for little gain.
>>>>>
>>>>>Anyway, lets start with HW and go through the SW versions as we go.
>>>>>
>>>>>Good Hunting!
>>>>>
>>>>>Tod
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>Hi Rein Smit!
>>>
>>>I wonder at several things:
>>>
>>>1. Firefox is the standard supplied browser in Ubuntu (and I think
>>>Kubuntu).  How did you miss that????
>>>
>>>2. The way you obtain SW "normally" in Ubuntu is through a package
>>>manager called synaptic.  In Ubuntu go to System > Administration >
>>>Synaptic Package Manager.  You may well want to include some more
>>>repositories (under Settings > Repositories) and I alaways start a
>>>session by hitting the "Reload" button which updates the package
>>>database and establishes that the internet connections are all
>>>working.  If you do a search on "firefox" (hit the "search" button and
>>>place "firefox" in the window and hit "Search" in the little window -
>>>be patient this one takes a bit of time) you should find the little
>>>box for firefox checked "green" telling you that the package is
>>>installed.  I think you will find Synaptic easy to use.
>>>
>>>3. Also standard office suite with Ubuntu is Open Office.org which
>>>contains a world class word processor, reasonable spreadsheet, and
>>>fair presentation manager.  I use Audacity to record, edit, and
>>>equalize/compress/and normalize sound I then compress and feed to my
>>>mini-sound player.  I view and edit pictures (viewer I have never
>>>looked up the name - the GIMP has most of the power of Photoshop (but
>>>a steep learning curve) Adobe is free for Linux as well (your http://www.puppylinux.com/PDFs) if
>>>you would rather that than any of the free PDF viewers supplied.
>>>
>>>What I want to know from you is how in the world you can have all of
>>>this right in front of you and miss it???
>>>
>>>Thanks!
>>>
>>>Tod
>>>
>>
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> 
> Hi again Rein!
> 
> I regret the "grumpy old man" tone of my previous post - please forgive me.
> 
> For your old P2 I would be interested in your results with Puppy Linux:
> # looks like there may be a lot of fake sites, I believe this is real -
> http://www.puppylinux.com/
> 
> If you really do have 1024 Mb (mega bytes) which would be a gigabyte
> then I am encouraged that you will have good results.  However that is
> a lot of memory for a machine that old.  Maybe, I hope so.
> 
> Sounds like you are doing a lot of experimenting.  Cool.
> 
> I do not consider Linux in the same sort of camp as XP and similar
> software.  OSS is a community project for the good of the community.
> XP is a software product.  They "compete" only in the loosest of
> terms.  In a perfect world they would help one another do what they do
> better.  I hope that can be someday!
> 
> Have a lot of fun!
> 
> Tod
> 