Sometimes Evince. Sometimes Adobe Reader

[Santiago Erquicia]

2006/9/20, marc <gmane at auxbuss.com>:
> Marius Gedminas said...
> > On Wed, Sep 20, 2006 at 12:52:34PM +0100, marc wrote:
> > > Santiago Erquicia said...
> > > > Adobe Reader doesn't use gnome-vfs so it cannot read a file from a
> > > > network filesystem such as SMB or NFS without those resources being
> > > > mounted to a directory.
> > > >
> > > > If KDE file manager can open the file, the problem should be something
> > > > else and not gnome-vfs, given that KDE uses kio stuff to access
> > > > network resources and Adobe Reader doesn't use them either.
> > >
> > > I can load other file managers (e.g. Krudsader and Konqueror) in Gnome=20
> > > and access the file in the manner that I would expect; namely that it=20
> > > opens in Adobe Reader. So, the issue is with Nautilus.
> > >
> > > > Is the samba share mounted to a directory?
> >
> > > No, I'm not using smbmount in this case, but simply a desktop link to
> > >
> > >  smb://machine/location
> >
> > I think I understand now what is happening: the KDE file managers download
> > the PDF file to a temporary directory and then launch Acrobat Reader on
> > the temporary file (because Acrobat Reader doesn't use kio); while Nautilus
> > refuses to open the PDF in Acrobat Reader (because Reader doesn't use
> > gnome-vfs).
>
> Thanks Marius. One up to KDE then. Very odd that Gnome currently does
> what it does,
>
> > > I'll file this as a Nautilus bug.
> >
> > I'm pretty sure it is already filed.
> >
> > *Searches*
> >
> > Here: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3D42265 (somewhat similar)
> >       http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3D44932 (somewhat similar)
> >       http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3D349406 (exactly the same)
>
> Those links all return "Invalid Bug ID" here, but I'll take your word
> for it.
>
> In the meantime, Gnome is useless in its current state here, so I'll
> continue using KDE.
>
> I'm trying very hard to use Gnome, but it has too many shortcomings to
> be usable, imo. This problem is clearly a design oversight, but others
> seem to be self-inflicted.
>

I don't know if KDE's behavior is exactly the right solution either.

It is fine if you want to see a PDF, but what happens when you open an
OpenOffice document that you want to save later after a few changes?
If it does save it to a temp file and then konqueror magically knows
where to put it back, fine, otherwise you are also in a problem.

The real solution is to provide ISVs, such as Adobe, some  way to
access network resources regardless of the framework used for the GUI,
which KDE would implement as KIO and GNOME as gnome-vfs. I think
project Portland is trying to do that but I might be wrong.

Santiago