ubuntu and kubuntu

[Scott]

Eamonn Sullivan wrote:
> On 9/2/06, Cheatah 0#@!^ <cheataah at gmail.com> wrote:
>> what is the difference between ubuntu and kubuntu?? or kde and gnome??
> 
> There are many fans of both Gnome and KDE and the debate over which is
> better has  started many senseless wars.

That's because (most) everyone has an opinion.   And often times it's a 
strong one.  Just like in Politics and Religion. :-)

> 
> My own experience is that people who like the Mac interface (clean,
> uncluttered, gets out of your way) or started their computing
> experience on older Unix systems *tend* to like Gnome a bit better.

Which if true, I find odd, since KDE can be made to look more "Mac-like" 
than GNOME (Mac-like menu bar at the top of the screen, translucent and 
"shiny" menus etc).


> while people from the Windows world

As a longtime Windows user I find the file open/save dialog boxes much 
more Windows like in KDE than in GNOME.  The GNOME open/save dialog 
boxes look more Mac like (although Windows Vista's boxes look more 
Mac/GNOME like now).

 > or who like to tweak every aspect
> of their system

Simple common things, like the color of Window borders and interiors, 
and how their screensavers behave.....

 > (so that they can launch a dozen applications, pay
> their bills and wash the dishes with one keystroke) *tend* to like
> KDE. Try both and make up your own mind.

There's a classic example of why these debates turn into "senseless wars".

> 
> Most applications run on either, so you aren't making a choice between
> different sets of applications, although a KDE application will look a
> bit out of place on Gnome (and vice versa).

If you have the gtk-qt engine installed (sudo apt get 
gtk2-engines-gtk-qt) you can make GNOME applications look much more KDE 
like.  It's not quite the same the other way around (close though).
The GTK-QT engine will not change the appearance/function of the file 
open/save boxes in GNOME apps though, but it otherwise make the app look 
more KDE like.

GNOME developers tend to treat users like idiots.  In the past few years 
it seems to have gotten worse with each release.

A wise man once said:

This "users are idiots, and are confused by functionality" mentality of
Gnome is a disease. If you think your users are idiots, only idiots will
use it. I don't use Gnome, because in striving to be simple, it has long
since reached the point where it simply doesn't do what I need it to do.

Please, just tell people to use KDE."[1]


I agree with all but the last sentence.  I prefer to use both.  There 
are things I like about both KDE and GNOME (e.g. better than the other).

I was in GNOME when I wrote this.

GNOME is simpler and in some aspects that's a good thing, in others it's 
not.  It comes down to personal preference.

I find that GNOME looks less like KDE OR Mac OSX than KDE does.  GNOME 
is just "unique".

If forced to choose, I'd pick KDE.  But the beauty of Open Source is, we 
have choice.  And I choose to run both.  I'm surprised so many others 
don't run both.



[1] http://mail.gnome.org/archives/usability/2005-December/msg00021.html


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