ubuntu-users Digest, Vol 19, Issue 175
pradeep reddy
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Thu Mar 16 05:56:48 UTC 2006
how can i install windowsxp on ubuntu operating system
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> 1. Re: Dapper: vim instead of nano as editor alternative?
> (Matthew R. Dempsky)
> 2. Re: evolution /spamassassin marks everything as spam (Matt Price)
> 3. Re: Remote Desktop : Connecting to a WinXP machine ?
> (Vincent Trouilliez)
> 4. Re: Remote Desktop : Connecting to a WinXP machine ?
> (Patrick Siglin)
> 5. Re: Remote Desktop : Connecting to a WinXP machine ?
> (Vincent Trouilliez)
> 6. Re: Remote Desktop : Connecting to a WinXP machine ?
> (Roger Haxton)
> 7. Re: Remote Desktop : Connecting to a WinXP machine ?
> (Patrick Siglin)
> 8. Re: Remote Desktop : Connecting to a WinXP machine ?
> (Vincent Trouilliez)
> 9. [Dapper upgrade] subprocess paste killed by signal? (Ben Novack)
> 10. Re: Help with dv cam (Patrick Siglin)
> 11. Re: Remote Desktop : Connecting to a WinXP machine ?
> (Vincent Trouilliez)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 20:59:42 -0600
> From: "Matthew R. Dempsky" <mrd at alkemio.org>
> Subject: Re: Dapper: vim instead of nano as editor alternative?
> To: Ubuntu Help and User Discussions <ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
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> On Thu, Mar 16, 2006 at 10:36:32AM +1100, Yuki Cuss wrote:
> > Consider learning how to use it. It is an *invaluable* tool for users of
> > any UNIX-based system. (don't give in and use EMACS :) though I
> > shouldn't strike up the holy wars) It's actually quite simple when you
> > start to learn how it's used, and you'll be zipping around files with
> > such speed that you'll surprise yourself.
>
> It still shouldn't be made to the default. Users that are capable of
> using vim will have no problem changing their editor.
>
> Similarly, I love LaTeX and think it produces far better documents than
> OpenOffice.org, but I'm not about to propose that Ubuntu drop OO.o in
> favor of Lyx or gedit+teTeX.
>
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 22:00:12 -0500
> From: Matt Price <matt.price at utoronto.ca>
> Subject: Re: evolution /spamassassin marks everything as spam
> To: Ubuntu Help and User Discussions <ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Message-ID: <20060316030012.GA25481 at utoronto.ca>
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> hi karl,
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 03, 2006 at 11:02:57AM -0800, Karl Hegbloom wrote:
> > On Mon, 2006-02-27 at 16:18 -0500, Matt Price wrote:
> > > SO now I just have the default spam filter enabled, and all my mail is
> > > being tagged as spam. On the other hand, if I isolate a single
> message
> > > and run spamc on the ocmmand line, e.g:
> > >
> > > cat ~/.evolution/mail/local/test | spamc -R
> > >
> > > I get very good results (non-spam has very low scores, spam has very
> > > high scores). Has anyone else dealt with this issue? Can you suggest
> a
> > > solution?
> >
> > Purge or move aside the "~/.spamassassin" directory, and edit
> > "/etc/default/spamassassin" to make sure that "ENABLED=0" is there (the
> > package default is 0). In other words, don't run a system wide SA.
> >
> > Use the default spam checking from Evolution, which will start up a
> > private instance of spamassassin running as your own login id, and then
> > access it via 'spamc'.
> >
>
> if I understand you correctly, I should no longer need to do this, as
> the automatic spam-checking should now work.
>
> > Don't try to pretrain the SA, but when messages are not matched as spam,
> > click the Junk button.
>
> missed this message earlier in the month, thank you for your response,
> will try this! Didn't realize that evolution started a private
> spamassassin instance.
>
> I've been using a bogofilter filter that I saw in a forum somewhere,
> and it works pretty well (catches about 90% of spam, very few false
> positives) , but as far as I can see there's no way to train
> bogofilter from within evolution. So I'm hoping your suggestion gives
> me a better solution
>
> also, is there a reason I shouldn't try pretraining?
>
> thanks much,
>
> matt
>
>
> >
>
> -------------------------------------------
> Matt Price matt.price at utoronto.ca
> History Department, University of Toronto
> (416) 978-2094
> --------------------------------------------
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 04:02:37 +0100
> From: Vincent Trouilliez <vincent.trouilliez at modulonet.fr>
> Subject: Re: Remote Desktop : Connecting to a WinXP machine ?
> To: Ubuntu Help and User Discussions <ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
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> On Wed, 2006-03-15 at 20:45 -0600, Matthew R. Dempsky wrote:
> > On Thu, Mar 16, 2006 at 03:14:33AM +0100, Vincent Trouilliez wrote:
> > > It works well except for one strange show stopper...
> >
> > The behavior you're describing is intentional. Microsoft doesn't want
> > multiple users on a single PC at a time.
>
> Ah okay, I see... Windows sux (tm), as usual... ;-)
>
> This will prevent my remote friend from actually seeing me control his
> desktop, so although I will hopefully be able to fix his e-mail client,
> he won't be able to watch me doing it, so he won't learn anything...
>
> Thanks Windows...
>
> Well anyway, looks like I am fully sorted and clued both on Windows/RDP,
> and Linux/VNC, and ready to connect to his machine, so thanks everyone
> who contributed to this thread, I much appreciated the quick and
> efficient help ! :o)
>
> Regards,
>
> --
> Vince
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 21:05:01 -0600
> From: "Patrick Siglin" <poison at list.memphistw.org>
> Subject: Re: Remote Desktop : Connecting to a WinXP machine ?
> To: Ubuntu Help and User Discussions <ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Message-ID: <20060316030437.M4162 at list.memphistw.org>
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> He can see you control his pc if he loads vnc on it.
>
> On Thu, 16 Mar 2006 04:02:37 +0100, Vincent Trouilliez wrote
> > On Wed, 2006-03-15 at 20:45 -0600, Matthew R. Dempsky wrote:
> > > On Thu, Mar 16, 2006 at 03:14:33AM +0100, Vincent Trouilliez wrote:
> > > > It works well except for one strange show stopper...
> > >
> > > The behavior you're describing is intentional. Microsoft doesn't want
> > > multiple users on a single PC at a time.
> >
> > Ah okay, I see... Windows sux (tm), as usual... ;-)
> >
> > This will prevent my remote friend from actually seeing me control
> > his desktop, so although I will hopefully be able to fix his e-mail
> > client, he won't be able to watch me doing it, so he won't learn
> anything...
> >
> > Thanks Windows...
> >
> > Well anyway, looks like I am fully sorted and clued both on
> > Windows/RDP, and Linux/VNC, and ready to connect to his machine, so
> > thanks everyone who contributed to this thread, I much appreciated
> > the quick and efficient help ! :o)
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > --
> > Vince
> >
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> Message: 5
> Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 04:14:17 +0100
> From: Vincent Trouilliez <vincent.trouilliez at modulonet.fr>
> Subject: Re: Remote Desktop : Connecting to a WinXP machine ?
> To: Ubuntu Help and User Discussions <ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
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> On Wed, 2006-03-15 at 21:05 -0600, Patrick Siglin wrote:
> > He can see you control his pc if he loads vnc on it.
>
> Yes sure, as I mentioned earlier in this thread, I got VNC running just
> fine on Windows :-)
> I keep telling my remote friend how Penguins are often much better than
> rattling Windows, looks like this remote administration thing will be
> yet another opportunity to prove my point !! Heehee.... :-)
>
> --
> Vince
>
>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 21:16:47 -0600
> From: Roger Haxton <rhaxton at swbell.net>
> Subject: Re: Remote Desktop : Connecting to a WinXP machine ?
> To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
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> On Wednesday March 15 2006 20:14, Vincent Trouilliez wrote:
> > On Wed, 2006-03-15 at 20:54 -0500, Mark Johanson wrote:
> > > When remote connecting to a XP system the account you are
> > > connecting to must have a password set up on it.
> >
> > Ah thanks ! :-)
> > I added a password to my account, now I can connect to it ! :o)
> >
> > It works well except for one strange show stopper...
> >
> > 1) First, I log into my XP account
> > 2) In Ubuntu I open an RDP session
> > 3) I can see the Windows desktop and control it.
> > 4) however as soon as the seesion is started, windows logs me out !!!
> > 5) I log back again in windows
> > 6) When I have done that, now it's the Ubuntu remote desktop session
> > that exists/closes all of a sudden !
> >
>
> It doesn't log you out, it locks the screen. That is the normal and
> expected
> behaviour. Remote desktop isn't designed for you to take control of the
> other user's session and let them watch you. It is a form of terminal
> services that allows you to connect to your own machine remotely. Remote
> assistance is Microsoft's protocol to allow you both to be able to watch
> the
> session. However, there is no linux client that I'm aware of. (granted,
> I've
> never looked.) For what it sounds like you're wanting VNC is your best
> bet.
> --
> ~R~
> ----------------------------------------------------------
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> Message: 7
> Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 21:18:48 -0600
> From: "Patrick Siglin" <poison at list.memphistw.org>
> Subject: Re: Remote Desktop : Connecting to a WinXP machine ?
> To: Ubuntu Help and User Discussions <ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Message-ID: <20060316031629.M1023 at list.memphistw.org>
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> Windows does have some perks. One being it is easy to setup everything.
> The
> downside is ofcourse all the security holes and it being a major target
> for
> spyware and viruses. I don't know how linux compares in the spyware and
> virus
> part since I have only been using linux for about 3 weeks now. I do
> believe
> that linux is making me a better trouble shooter though since a lot of
> things
> are harder to setup.
>
> On Thu, 16 Mar 2006 04:14:17 +0100, Vincent Trouilliez wrote
> > On Wed, 2006-03-15 at 21:05 -0600, Patrick Siglin wrote:
> > > He can see you control his pc if he loads vnc on it.
> >
> > Yes sure, as I mentioned earlier in this thread, I got VNC running just
> > fine on Windows :-)
> > I keep telling my remote friend how Penguins are often much better than
> > rattling Windows, looks like this remote administration thing will be
> > yet another opportunity to prove my point !! Heehee.... :-)
> >
> > --
> > Vince
> >
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> Message: 8
> Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 04:27:11 +0100
> From: Vincent Trouilliez <vincent.trouilliez at modulonet.fr>
> Subject: Re: Remote Desktop : Connecting to a WinXP machine ?
> To: Ubuntu Help and User Discussions <ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
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> On Wed, 2006-03-15 at 21:16 -0600, Roger Haxton wrote:
> > It doesn't log you out, it locks the screen. That is the normal and
> expected
> > behaviour. Remote desktop isn't designed for you to take control of the
> > other user's session and let them watch you. It is a form of terminal
> > services that allows you to connect to your own machine
> remotely. Remote
> > assistance is Microsoft's protocol to allow you both to be able to watch
> the
> > session. However, there is no linux client that I'm aware of. (granted,
> I've
> > never looked.) For what it sounds like you're wanting VNC is your best
> bet.
>
> Hmm, thanks for shedding some light Roger, I am starting to make sense
> of windows behaviour now, it does have some logic to it in the end ;o)
> So I guess what I would be asking for, in the future, is that Gnome
> Terminal Server Client applet, handles this " Remote Assistance"
> protocol of Windows. I might file a wishlist bug about it, in case it's
> not already in their pipeline...
>
> --
> Vince
>
>
>
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> Message: 9
> Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 22:31:57 -0500
> From: "Ben Novack" <bhn3 at pitt.edu>
> Subject: [Dapper upgrade] subprocess paste killed by signal?
> To: "Ubuntu Help and User Discussions" <ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
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> Hey all.
>
> So I tried to move to Dapper, and got this when running apt-get
> dist-upgrade:
>
> Unpacking openoffice.org-help-en-us [...]
> dpkg: error processing
> /var/cache/apt/archives/openoffice.org-help-en-us_2.0.2-1ubuntu2_all.deb
> (--unpack):
> trying to overwrite '/usr/lib/openoffice/help/en/default.css', which
> is also in package openoffice.org-help-en
> dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)
> Errors were encountered while processing:
> /var/cache/apt/archives/openoffice.org-help-en-us_2.0.2-1ubuntu2_all.deb
> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code
>
> As a result, I can't make progress, and my box is in a horribly broken
> state. Suggestions, anyone?
>
>
>
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> Message: 10
> Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 21:41:17 -0600
> From: "Patrick Siglin" <poison at list.memphistw.org>
> Subject: Re: Help with dv cam
> To: Ubuntu Help and User Discussions <ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
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> On Thu, 16 Mar 2006 13:42:28 +1100, Shelagh Manton wrote
> > I have a panasonic nv gs150 which has both firewire and usb2 i/o. I'm
> > trying to extract something I taped. I have both friewire and usb2
> > installes on my computer. I have followed instructions on this list
> about
> > getting 1394 devices up and running and insuring I have read write
> access.
> >
> > gscanbus works with the camera, in that it makes it play and stop
> > etc. Coriander doesn't like it. And kino can't find it either. Is
> > there a howto for dv camera somewhere I've missed? Or maybe I'll
> > just have to do this stuff on a windows machine.
> >
> > Shelagh
> >
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> Message: 11
> Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 04:45:48 +0100
> From: Vincent Trouilliez <vincent.trouilliez at modulonet.fr>
> Subject: Re: Remote Desktop : Connecting to a WinXP machine ?
> To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
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> On Wed, 2006-03-15 at 21:18 -0600, Patrick Siglin wrote:
> > ...I don't know how linux compares in the spyware and virus
> > part since I have only been using linux for about 3 weeks now.
>
> I am still a newbee as well, but with a little longer experience, but
> the result is very encouraging :
>
> - Been using Linux for nearly 2 years, and the past 18 months with
> Ubuntu since the day it came out. Connected to internet 24/7 for all of
> that time, receiving 100+ mails every day (mostly via this very
> list ! ;-), surfing the web hours a day, no anti-virus, no fire-wall,
> yet I have not ever had any spyware, virus or any sort of malware, and
> the web browser easily blocks ugly ad banners effortlessly as well.
> So in short, it's a dream.
>
> - I installed Windows XP this morning (had a little thing to do/test on
> it). After only 30 minutes on the web (not kidding!), I got a pop up
> window steal focus, telling me my computer was infected and I needed to
> take immediate action. Then it started to pop-up internet Explorer
> windows all over the place, with flashy porn/sex/games ads, the more
> windows I closed, the more that would pop up ! After 3 minutes clicking
> everywhere, it eventually calmed down, and all IE's windows were
> eventually closed. 3 minutes later, it started all over again !! :-O
>
> So really, I hardly even remotely consider going back to Windows, even
> if someone paid me for it.
> Sure enough, Linux (on the Desktop) has many rough edges as it's still
> such a battle field and is moving so quickly as it matures and all its
> numerous bits and pieces are being developed/debugged. But the strong,
> positive points of Linux faaaaaaar out weight any quirk you might come
> across.
>
> Have fun :-)
>
>
> --
> Vince
>
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