Dapper install CD won't run on my AMD64 (was: Lots of Dapper Problems)

[Bill Atkins]

Sorry, I forgot this was a new thread.

It starts loading services and seems to have no problems until it starts GDM
and then "HP Printing Utilities."  At this point, the screen goes blank and
nothing else happens.  Neither the CD nor the hard drive appear to be
spinning.  This happens with every kind of fix I've tried.

Bill

On 7/6/06, Gilles Gravier <Gilles at gravier.org> wrote:
>
>  At what point does the install CD stop?
>
> Gilles.
>
>
> Bill Atkins wrote:
>
> I ended up just re-installing Ubuntu on my laptop from a Dapper CD.
> This solved all my issues- I'm more interested in having at least one
> working machine than in tracking down problems.
>
> Unfortunately, I still can't get my desktop (the homemade AMD64) to
> boot from the Dapper install CD.  I've tried:
>
>   - the regular desktop CD (i386)
>   - the alternate CD (i386)
>   - the regular desktop CD (AMD64)
>   - using the debian-installer/framebuffer=false kernel option
>   - using the noapic and nolapic kernel options
>   - safe graphics mode
>   - combinations of these
>
> The one approach I haven't tried is the alternate AMD64 install.  I'll
> try that if no one can come up with other suggestions.
>
> Any more ideas on this?  Mario Vukelic's link suggests that this isn't
> a video-related problem.  The consistency checkers all indicate that
> the CD is OK.  I'm not sure what the problem is here.
>
> Bill
>
> On 7/4/06, Mario Vukelic <mario.vukelic at dantian.org><mario.vukelic at dantian.org>wrote:
>
> On Tue, 2006-07-04 at 11:03 -0400, Bill Atkins wrote:
> > Thanks.  I moved /etc/fonts out of the way, ...
>
> Glad you got one step further
>
> > Still, these other issues are baffling.
>
> They are, but I'd have it easier if I got an answer to my other
> question :) Did you follow the instructions in the DapperUpgrade notes,
> especially regarding making sure that (k,x)ubuntu-desktop is installed
> before upgrading?
> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DapperUpgrades
>
> > Is there a better place to
> > look for support on these kinds of problems?
>
> I don't think really
>
> >  Is it possible to talk
> > to Canonical directly, or to talk to the people who make the
> > installation CD's?
>
> There are commercial support options on the Ubuntu homepage somewhere,
> but I don't think that's what you're asking
>
> I guess via bug reports, but before filing one you should make sure you
> followed the instructions in the upgrade notes
>
> > Even though
> > the machines are very different (one is an IBM ThinkPad, the other a
> > homebuilt AMD64 machine), they are having frustratingly similar
> > problems.
>
> To me, his might hint to erroneous upgrade procedures
> (DapperUpgrades? :) or a bug in Dapper you trigger for some reason
>
> > I followed the same procedure on both machines: change breezy to
> > dapper in /etc/apt/sources.lst, sudo apt-get update, then sudo apt-get
> > dist-upgrade.
>
> Just to be sure: installed (k,x)ubuntu-desktop before doing that?
>
> As another poster has noted, aptitude might be a better option than
> apt-get, since it is much better at resolving dependencies.
>
> Also, upgrading via System/Administration/Update Manager (as explained
> in the upgrade notes) seems to be safer. Many people seem to have
> problems doing it the CLI way. For me it went smooth though, but I
> upgraded before the Flight CDs came out.
>
> I don't know if there is a way to force Update Manager to retry now,
> after the CLI approach has already failed.
>
> > I considered doing a fresh install from a Dapper install CD, but even
> > this caused problems for me. (...) I have a hunch this is a video card
> problem (ATi Radeon
> > 9250SE), but I don't know what to do about it.
>
> I'd think your hunch looked pretty good, had I not googled this:
> http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/ATI/Radeon9xxx
>
> Did you use the Desktop CD or the Alternate Install CD? If not the
> second, it might be worth a try since it needs no X to install
>
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