Well, Windows is back on the disk.

[Lonn]

I am very pleased with Ubuntu. It offers software and functionality that is
not otherwise available or available only at significant cost.

The concept of "complaint" can be interpreted as inquiry, request for new
features, bug reports, or even dissatisfaction with the language of an
instruction. Very experienced people interpret such input and adjust the
product when an adjustment best serves the majority of users without
creating special "differences" throughout the OS of throughout thousands of
programs that run on MS, Linux, or any other commercial operating system.

Is WIN better than Ubuntu or vice-versa?  They are as different as apples
and oranges -- even thought both have GUI user interfaces. Both will be
around for a long time and both will get better -- more powerful -- easier
to install -- easier to use.

Windows has never been free -- on a new machine or by any other means. The
cost is paid by hardware manufacturer and passed along to buyers in an
apparently transparent manner. Some persons turn on their computer and
object to the MS EULA and apply for a refund of the cost of the OS in their
deal and they usually get a refund - laws provide for such an option if the
user did not forfeit it in their sale/purchase agreement.

In response to another issue -- the claim that MS only supports XP is
absolutely incorrect. All of the WINDOWS operating systems and office
products are upgradeable to the latest security fixes and bug fixes (but you
cannot move to later OS or to higher priced alternatives from say WIN98,
98SE, or WIN_ME to such as XP, WINDOWS 2000, or WIN XP Professional without
purchasing them).

It was said in an earlier post of this thread that a reinstall of MS to cure
OS problems overwrites all personal files on the disk. No so! In fact, a
reinstall of the OS on a working system ordinarily will not overwrite OS
files of a later date than those on the disk that came with a machine or
came out of a shrink wrapped software box, if purchased separately. A
restore point can be set in MS products, at any time or at any stage of
stable operation, but normally it's done after properly installing new
software or hardware. If new software causes problems and cannot be
'uninstalled' the machine can be rolled back to the last set restore point
or to an earlier set restore point -- and walla, offending software will be
ignored and it will not struggle with new hardware if it is removed from the
system. A sidebar to that -- if you install software that corrupts your OS
and you were not warned of such risk in the EULA -- you should sue the
vendor of that product.

You can, with a little perseverance, talk to a MS technician about problems
with your MS software. There is a continuous stream of updates coming out of
MS. If you use any of their products, [t is wise to know about their update
system and how to use it.

I am not trolling for WINDOWS.  If you make an argument for Ubuntu or any
other Linux product, it is good to have the facts right so credibility is
not lost with WINDOWS users. Most WIN users know they can update at any time
they choose and they know they can talk with an MS tech when appropriate.

Do you believe that a free market, world wide, would permit MS or any other
company to enjoy a multi-billion USD monthly sales volume without it
providing products that people desire to have?

Lonn

| -----Original Message-----
| From: Dick Davies [mailto:rasputnik at gmail.com]
| Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 19:28
| To: Ubuntu Help and User Discussions
| Subject: Re: Well, Windows is back on the disk.
|
|
| On 18/01/06, Lionel <lionelv at gmail.com> wrote:
| > Dick Davies wrote:
| > > On 17/01/06, Lionel <lionelv at gmail.com> wrote:
| > >
| > >>  You are
| > >> getting it for FREE. You are getting it for FREE. A lot of
| people put a
| > >> lot of hard work into Linux and get nothing in return,
| consider yourself
| > >> lucky that people are out there trying.
|
| > > So because it's free, you're aren't allowed to complain about it?
| > > That' s a very silly argument. Try drinking sewer water, but
| please don't
| > > complain about the typhoid.
| >
| > That's a very silly statement because using linux is a choice as is
| > drinking sewer water.
|
| The idea that just because something is free you shouldn't be allowed
| to complain about its quality is nonsense. Windows comes free with a
| lot of PCs but that doesnt' mean it's beyond reproach. I get free
| junk mail.
|
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