Windows, Linux, The Debate: which is best?

Sasha Tsykin stsykin at gmail.com
Wed Jan 18 12:58:25 UTC 2006


Billy Verreynne (JW) wrote:

>Peter Garrett wrote:
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>>Funny, it seems to have produced a whole operating system,
>>and applications, which presumably you are using too...
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>About 50+ Sun servers running Linux.. Including a 12 node cluster (and
>busy building 2 more 3 node ones).
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>>on principle then, should you not renounce the use of this
>>clearly subversive GNU/Linux, since, according to you, co-operative
>>productions are doomed to a lingering death of false hopes,
>>and epically political/historical proportions?
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>Nah.. Now you're putting words in my mouth Peter. I was saying that
>people using and supporting different distribs are unlikely to join
>forces creating a single point-of-entry website to introduce Linux and
>fight the "evils" of Microsoft.
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Nuh, you compared it to socialism and communism.

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>>Equally odd is the fact that every day I see many people on-line
>>working together, and every six months producing a staggeringly
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>>set of packages that mostly work rather well.
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>I see it in the workplace too.. Point being? (it does not require an
>open source project to create complex software systems with many
>seamless fitting components using a very diverse developer base)
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He's not saying it is required, he's saying it can do the job. He's not 
saying it's the only approach, he's demonstrating rather well that it is 
an approach which works.

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>>I must have a
>>perceptual disorder, or be dreaming perhaps...
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>Well, if you insist.. I won't argue that you seem to have rather a
>serious problem of sorts..
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Insulting people shows a lack of ideas, not a great argument technique. 
Plus it makes you sound a bit like a dickhead.

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>>Not sure if I'm a Bleeding Heart - I'm supposed to be an artist,
>>according to some,
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>And you're not a fan of 'The Wall' either. Your loss. :-)
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>>>This argument of Windows vs. Linux will simply degrade into Linux
>>>distro vs. Linux distro.
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>>Your cynicism is mildly entertaining, if badly thought out - your
>>conclusions appear to be what I was taught in school to recognise as
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>>" non sequitur".
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very true

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>So The Great Battle between the Trolls of Gnomes and the Knights of
>KDE is just a figment of imagination?
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>The communism/socialistic approach says that we should have a single
>distro. For the greater good as we will not confuse the market. For
>the greater good as we use our forces better. For the greater good as
>we can fight The Suits of the Evil Empire of Microsoft better.
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You're the one who was sayign that Linux advocates a communist/socialist 
approach, not us. As I've already demonstrated, it is a very capitalist 
phenomenon. And I have no time for those who declare that Microsoft is 
evil, because and I happen to use it's products, and I like the way Bill 
Gates does things.

>If anything, Linux is about -freedom-. Choosing and using what -you-
>like. Which is why there are so many distros. Which is we have KDE and
>Gnome vying for the same space on our desktops.
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Exactly, but I don't see what point you are trying to make.

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>Billy
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Sasha




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