ubuntu-users Digest, Vol 28, Issue 117 (System info. ram, hardisk...)

Ralph O. ex_skul_nerd at yahoo.com
Fri Dec 15 13:55:30 UTC 2006


Carsten!
  To get information about your computer. I'l advise you to run windows,& open the help & support cenre, type memory in the search box 'n' click get information about my computer. There, you'll find the ram, hardisk hdd space 'n' all that. If this is not what you're looking for, hit me back 'n' be more elaborate & specific and I'll advise you.

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Today's Topics:

1. Re: Latest Updates (Anthony Gardner)
2. Re: Latest Updates (Adriano Varoli Piazza)
3. Re: Latest Updates ( Herv? Fache )
4. Edgy crashes when shutting down and a volume is mounted with
cifs (Nils)
5. Re: Recommended hard drive diet? (Trevor Nye)
6. Re: Edgy crashes when shutting down and a volume is mounted
with cifs ( Herv? Fache )
7. Re: Recommended hard drive diet? (Andy)
8. Re: Old pc faster than ecent (Carsten Aulbert)
9. Re: network printer (Eberhard Roloff)
10. Re: Recommended hard drive diet? ( Herv? Fache )
11. Re: Recommended hard drive diet? (Eberhard Roloff)


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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 12:09:15 +0000 (GMT)
From: Anthony Gardner 
Subject: Re: Latest Updates
To: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions"

Message-ID: <191339.38781.qm at web26007.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>
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yeah, that's another thought I had. Why isn't there just ONE update manager and just ONE package manager for all the *ubuntu distros.

just a thought!!

Herv? Fache wrote: update-manager is not /yet/ the prefered way of updating a Kubuntu
system. I suggest the following instead:
sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -y dist-upgrade

I have seen my computers telling me my packages were not authenticated
before, and it was always due to a problem when running apt-get
update, so I suggest you run it again in a terminal, and the problem
either will go, or will appear very clearly.

Herv?.

P.S.: cross-posting to Kubuntu-users

On 12/15/06, Anthony Gardner wrote:
> Am running Kubuntu dapper and have just gone to use update-manager to get
> the latest updates but it tells me that that they're not authenticated.
>
> A little worrying as there are linux-headers in there!!
>
> -Ants
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 13:16:43 +0100
From: "Adriano Varoli Piazza" 
Subject: Re: Latest Updates
To: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions"

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On 12/15/06, Anthony Gardner wrote:
> yeah, that's another thought I had. Why isn't there just ONE update manager
> and just ONE package manager for all the *ubuntu distros.
>
> just a thought!!

Why isn't there a single Ubuntu distro at all? After all, we all know
I'm right, and what I like or use is the best thing. Isn't it?

Yes, for that same reason.

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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 10:24:21 -0200
From: " Herv? Fache " 
Subject: Re: Latest Updates
To: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions"
, "Kubuntu Help and User Discussions"

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There will be soon. Update-manager works for Ubuntu, should work for
Xubuntu in Feisty (there was a little issue for Edgy), and Kubuntu
should get something similar too, but I don't know what or when.

Herv?.

On 12/15/06, Anthony Gardner wrote:
> yeah, that's another thought I had. Why isn't there just ONE update manager
> and just ONE package manager for all the *ubuntu distros.

> Herv? Fache wrote:
> update-manager is not /yet/ the prefered way of updating a Kubuntu
> system. I suggest the following instead:
> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -y dist-upgrade

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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 13:25:36 +0100
From: Nils 
Subject: Edgy crashes when shutting down and a volume is mounted with
cifs
To: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions"

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Hi all,

Edgy seems to crash always when something is mounted via CIFS and I
reboot or shut it down.

To fix this I need to make a script which finds everything, that is
mounted with CIFS and then it needs to be executed every time when the
system shuts down and reboots. I think that's runlevel 0 and 6, but
I'm not sure how this works on Edgy, since it has a new init system.
I'm also not sure what's the best way to figure out what is mounted
with cifs (is mount | grep cifs | awk '{print $3}' enough?)

I think this is quite a serious issue, but I'm not sure where to report a bug.

Thanks for advices!

Nils



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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 13:25:36 +0100
From: Trevor Nye 
Subject: Re: Recommended hard drive diet?
To: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions"

Message-ID: <1166185536.4956.3.camel at Ubuntu-desktop>
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> 
> I would try to tackle this from the bottom up.
> 
> df -h 
> shows you all your partitions on your disk, their respective sizes and what
> percentage of that space is in use.
> 
I tried this cammand but I get this result
trevor at Ubuntu-desktop:~$ df -h
Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/hdb1 20G 19G 241M 99% /
varrun 506M 136K 506M 1% /var/run
varlock 506M 0 506M 0% /var/lock
procbususb 10M 140K 9.9M 2% /proc/bus/usb
udev 10M 140K 9.9M 2% /dev
devshm 506M 0 506M 0% /dev/shm
lrm 506M 18M 489M
4% /lib/modules/2.6.17-10-generic/volatile
trevor at Ubuntu-desktop:~$ 
But I also have hda2 & hda3 I am on UBUNTU 6.10





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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 10:33:33 -0200
From: " Herv? Fache " 
Subject: Re: Edgy crashes when shutting down and a volume is mounted
with cifs
To: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions"

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On 12/15/06, Nils wrote:
> Hi all,

Hi Nils!

> Edgy seems to crash always when something is mounted via CIFS and I
> reboot or shut it down.

Ooops!

> To fix this I need to make a script which finds everything, that is
> mounted with CIFS and then it needs to be executed every time when the
> system shuts down and reboots. I think that's runlevel 0 and 6, but
> I'm not sure how this works on Edgy, since it has a new init system.

You can still create a System V type script in /etc/init.d, and create
the required links in /etc/rc0.d and /etc/rc6.d.

> I'm also not sure what's the best way to figure out what is mounted
> with cifs (is mount | grep cifs | awk '{print $3}' enough?)

Yup.

> I think this is quite a serious issue, but I'm not sure where to report a bug.

https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs
-> Report a Bug (top left)

Thanks!
Herv?.

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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 12:59:50 +0000
From: Andy 
Subject: Re: Recommended hard drive diet?
To: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions"

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On 15/12/06, David Armour wrote:
> I'm reminding myself of the engineer Dilbert was testing who answered "all of
> them!" when asked how many of the pens in his pocket protector he needed: most
> of the files I'm using, I'm using weekly. But I like the idea of periodically
> moving most of 'em to cd.
I just found a mildly useful command, based on the Debian popularity-contest:
popcon-largest-unused

Apparently my largest unused is tetex-base, however I will actually
start using that at some point.
It also suggests I get rid of the kernel headers (I need them to
compile my WiFi if I ever need to plug that back in).

I'm not sure if anyone has suggested thus, and I don't know how to go
about it, but is there some way of safely removing all the old
Kernels? (I know how to erase them from grubs menu but I was thinking
more along the lines of actually removing the image). Any docs for
this?

Wasn't there going to be an application for this kind of thing at some point?

- Andy

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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 14:01:26 +0100
From: Carsten Aulbert 
Subject: Re: Old pc faster than ecent
To: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions"

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michaelpo at myjaring.net wrote:
> how do you tell the temperature or:
> cpu
> harddisk
> ram

cpu (and some RAM modules): lm-sensors (but be careful on IBM laptops)

harddisk: smartmontools

HTH

Carsten






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Message: 9
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 14:12:31 +0100
From: Eberhard Roloff 
Subject: Re: network printer
To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
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norman wrote:

> Recently I had excellent tuition on how to set up a network printer by
> editing /etc/cups/cups.d/ports.conf. Two days ago I changed from 6.06.1
> to 6.10 so, I assumed no problem. To my chagrin I find that there is no
> folder called ports.conf. I don't want to risk messing up my machine so
> advice again please.
> 
> Do I simply use the editor to make a file called ports.conf with
> Listen*:631 and add it to the cups.d folder. Then follow with
> sudo /etc/init.d/cupsys.
> 
> I anxiously await your advice.
> 
> Norman
Hi,
what about trying http://localhost:631 and install the network printer from
there?

Kind regards
Eberhard





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Message: 10
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 11:18:22 -0200
From: " Herv? Fache " 
Subject: Re: Recommended hard drive diet?
To: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions"

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On 12/15/06, Andy wrote:
> I'm not sure if anyone has suggested thus, and I don't know how to go
> about it, but is there some way of safely removing all the old
> Kernels? (I know how to erase them from grubs menu but I was thinking
> more along the lines of actually removing the image). Any docs for
> this?

I use the GUI, search for linux-image, find all versions installed
(like 2.6.17-10), then search for the version number. I then remove
all kernel-related packages for that version, keeping only the current
one.

> Wasn't there going to be an application for this kind of thing at some point?

There was indeed. Don't know what happened to this project though...

Herv?.

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Message: 11
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 14:40:27 +0100
From: Eberhard Roloff 
Subject: Re: Recommended hard drive diet?
To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
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Trevor Nye wrote:

> 
>> 
>> I would try to tackle this from the bottom up.
>> 
>> df -h
>> shows you all your partitions on your disk, their respective sizes and
>> what percentage of that space is in use.
>> 
> I tried this cammand but I get this result
> trevor at Ubuntu-desktop:~$ df -h
> Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on
> /dev/hdb1 20G 19G 241M 99% /
> varrun 506M 136K 506M 1% /var/run
> varlock 506M 0 506M 0% /var/lock
> procbususb 10M 140K 9.9M 2% /proc/bus/usb
> udev 10M 140K 9.9M 2% /dev
> devshm 506M 0 506M 0% /dev/shm
> lrm 506M 18M 489M
> 4% /lib/modules/2.6.17-10-generic/volatile
> trevor at Ubuntu-desktop:~$
> But I also have hda2 & hda3 I am on UBUNTU 6.10

hmmm, so that means that you are running out of space in / ;-)

Now use Clives command to identify the most critical space hogs and proceed
from there.

After you will be "clean" again, you might consider to use separate
partitions for anything that is eating up your space. Doing this, you keep
a workable computer, even if your space eating daemons will render their
separate partition to be out of space. 

Imho, it usually is a good idea to have /home on a separate partition,
Depending on what you do, /var (and many more) could also make sense.

Btw. having you /home on a separate partition also will make any
distribution reinstall or upgrade nearly trivial.

Kind regards
Eberhard




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