Upgrading from Breezy to Dapper beta

David M lists2006 at viewport.ukfsn.org
Wed Apr 26 11:25:05 UTC 2006


Matt Zimmerman wrote in gmane.linux.ubuntu.user 
 about: Re: Announcing Beta release of Ubuntu 6.06 LTS 

> Sure, more information can be found here:
> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+spec/release-upgrades
>
> "apt-get dist-upgrade" has never truly been sufficient, and this tool is a
> solution to that problem, not its source.  Upgrading to a new Ubuntu release
> is a complex high-level operation which is not easily addressed with the
> kinds of heuristics used to support incremental upgrades.

Interesting..

I'm a bit old-skool (in some ways) and therefore have become quite used
to (and quite fond of) 'apt-get dist-upgrade' and its simplicity and
justworksfulness compared to some other distros' upgrade methods.

Not that this means that I'm not open to new ways of Making Life Even
Easier for Myself, of course :)

However, it does sound a little as though some of us "must unlearn what 
we have learned". ;-)

(In a similar way as to how I increasingly hear references here to
something called 'aptitude' which I'd never heard of before (and I've
been using Ubuntu since the start, and Debian for a few years during a
previous period in time): it seems I need to move with the times a
little more? Perhaps I really should look into 'aptitude' as well.)


> The availability of a GUI tool should not have any impact on users who
> choose not to use it.  You may still perform upgrades using the command-line
> tools, and resolve any difficulties manually, just as you always have.
>
> But for those who want it to "just work", there is now a more suitable
> option.  It is a complementary use case.

Well, if it's safe to run with, I'm prepared to give it a go! It just
feels a little "funny" to part with one of the stable "foundation stones" 
which Debian-based systems have become famous for..



[/wibblyib-wibblyib/, time passes..]

OK, I've now tried: gksudo "update-manager -d"

and it tells me that it can't upgrade 'totem' (not a major problem for
me, I presume I can reinstall it later, otherwise I can live without it
for now), but that it is planning to install only 6 packages:

linux-image-2.6.12-10-386
linux-image-386
linux-restricted-modules-2.6.12-10-386
linux-restricted-modules-386
python-vte
update-manager


Is this OK? Am I right in thinking that the update-manager is doing the
minimum it needs to in order to upgrade itself, and then, afterwards,
I'll need to run it again in order to actually dist-upgrade?
And it'll take care automatically of all changes needed to
/etc/apt/sources.list and I won't have to update it myself?
(I've never used the update-manager before, always apt-get)


Thanks,


David.

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