that darned ROOT problem

[Ben Edwards]

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo

Enjoy,
Ben

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vram [mailto:lamsokvr at xprt.net]
> Sent: 29 September 2005 16:16
> To: Ubuntu Help and User Discussions; Matan Nassau
> Subject: Re: that darned ROOT problem
> 
> 
> On Thu, 2005-09-29 at 09:20 -0400, Matan Nassau wrote:
> > On 9/28/05, Mario Vukelic <mario.vukelic at dantian.org> wrote:
> > > If someone tries to su to a non-existant account, su complains:
> > >
> > > mario at phonic: / $ su doesnt_exist
> > > Unknown id: doesnt_exist
> > > mario at phonic: / $
> > >
> > > If someone tries to su to root when it is disabled, it 
> could well say
> > > "root account disabled. See 
> /usr/share/doc/<somepackage>/README for
> > > info", at least the first time it is run by a user.
> > 
> > This is not the same. root does exist, and will never cease 
> to exist.
> > As much as I understand the mechanism of sudo, sudo is merely a
> > running automatic third-party between users and root, and 
> it knows who
> > is priviledged and who's not, to forward requests to root.
> > 
> > All Ubuntu did was to DISABLE root, not delete it (you 
> can't, correct
> > me if I'm wrong). They just edit the passwd file so that 
> any password
> > you enter to become root will fail. root is still there as 
> much as su,
> > or the system for this matter, are concerned. You can, however, wrap
> > su with some crafted script (or worse yet change the su 
> code) but you
> > then start doing things the Wrong Way(tm), because you farther make
> > the users get used to Non-Standard(tm) things -- only this 
> time for no
> > justified reason.
> > 
> 
> 
> 
> NO..Not the way I understand it..  
> What Ubuntu did was activate sudo and give the first user <you> all
> privileges.
> 
> Root is still there just not activated.  <Different from 
> deactivated><At
> least in my mind>
> 
> Anyway
> My  $0.02
> 
> Vram
>   
> 
> 
> > --
> > MN
> > 
> 
> 
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