[OT] Re: Is Ubuntu safe to try

Frederic Soulier frederic at wallaby.uklinux.net
Wed Jul 6 13:59:36 UTC 2005


Ante Karamatić wrote:
> On Wed, 2005-07-06 at 09:03 -0400, Larry Grover wrote:
> 
> 
>>(1) Set up printing to use a CUPS printer on a linux box.  This was 
>>absolutely impossible for me to accomplish under OS X.  I finally got 
>>it working by copying the config files over to OS X from a linux 
>>(Ubuntu) system.  Setting up Ubuntu to use the CUPS printer was a 
>>breeze, by comparison.
> 
> 
> Then I don't have to tell you how I lost my mind setting up printers on
> OSX via IPP. Even Windows have better support, and OSX uses CUPS! Those
> guys at Apple are di**heads.
> 
> 
> (9) Very, very, ultra very, bad SMB support. Check this out: on all
> Windows and Linux boxes simple copying over SMB protocol works how it's
> supposed to. On every OSX it works like crap. Same file, same wires,
> even in the same time (with diff wires, of course). Nothing helps.
> Linux/Windows copys at 50mb/s, OSX at 50kb/s. Go figure.

Works fine here.


> (10) On one location I have file server with couple of TB disk space.
> Windows and Linux mounts share and work like a charm. OSX's samba is
> totally broken and can't mount share - too big filesystem.

Ok don't have that much HD space so can't comment.


> Well, no, is there anybody who could explain me how the hell does Linux,
> FreeBSD and OSX uses same programs (Samba/CUPS) and in Linux and BSD
> case it works how it should, but on Mac it doesn't?!

Again using a Canon i850 with a Network Print Server module on the
parallel port works.

> 
>>I could go on and on, but in general, the problems I have with OS X 
>>boil down to:  (1) poor OS X interoperability with linux  (to be fair, 
>>I think Apple only cares about interoperability with windows, but 
>>that's of absolutely no use to me), (2) OS X "just works", but only if 
>>you want to do exactly what Apple thinks you should do and do it in 
>>exactly the way Apple wants; if you don't, then prepare for big 
>>frustrations.

If you buy a car and decide to run it on 3 wheels instead of 4 don't you
think you'd had to prepare for big frustrations.
Apple made some technical decisions to achieve their goal of producing
something usable by 99% of the people.

> Apple thinks only of them self. Sometimes I think they don't care about
> their users. And don't let me start with Office on OSX. That's a place
> you just don't want to go!
> 
> I hope I will never have to see or work on OSX again. This OS stinks.

You're free to express your opinions but developers working for Apple
are certainly not di**heads and Mac OS X doesn't stink more than any
other OS out there.
To be honest I personaly don't have pbms with my printer, SMB shares or
Office on Mac OS X.
And if I were to get paid for the numbers of hours lost trying to fix
broken stuff in any Linux distros since 1999 I'd be a millionaire ;)

Peace :)
I'm sending this email from Thunderbird under Hoary with KDE but
definitely enjoying my Powermac at home.
At home, choice between Linux and Mac OS X, I choose OS X.
At work, choice between Linux and Windows 2K/XP, I choose Linux

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