=D> thanks to the guys working on kubuntu . I'm looking forward to it. For those of us who try really hard to like Gnome and fail and enjoy Ubuntu this is very good. Where can i read more about kubuntu? I would recommend to try Hoary and the new dev Gnome there - its much more pleasant than 2.8.x on Warty, but still far from as nice or fast as KDE ;-) -- Chears -- josel