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[poptones]

But you can say that about anything. "If I don't want ot use KDE I don't
have to; I can still log into mandrake with gnome and be done with it."

The point is this: there comes a point where it's just not so easy to
do that. Making gnome work well on mandrake, for example - making it
work as well in gnome as ubuntu does ootb - is NOT so easy. There's a
lot of stuff that mandrake is lacking in gnome (and don't even get me
started on suse!)  and installing much of it is a nightmare of
conflicts and dependancies.

Same goes for removal. If gnome is moving toward making evolution the
"desktop data server" then there comes a time when attacking gnome
desktops is made substantially easier, and removing that vulnerability
becomes impractical for any but the most knowledgable admins - which
puts us pretty much where Microsoft is today. 

Example: I just selected "complete removal" of evolution server. Here's
what else I lose:

gaim
gnome applets
gnome panel (!)
gnome panel data...

How useful is gnome if you don't have the control panel anymore? Might
as well go back to blackbox, or even IceWM. And as the integration
"evolves" then where does it end? Removing the silly address book
predicates abandoning the entire gnome desktop?


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poptones