GUI Wireless Tools

David Coldrick coldrick at gmail.com
Sat Feb 12 03:55:56 UTC 2005


I currently run with networking not started, and i do a sudo ifup eth0
or sudo ifup wlan0 depending on my environment.

Still trying to decide whete NetworkManager would be worthwhile for me
- installed it once and had a bunch of probs. and went back to the
usual.

Do I need to configure network startup differently in order to use
NetworkManager?

Regards,
David


On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 17:07:00 -0800, Ed Fletcher <ed at fletcher.ca> wrote:
> Ed Fletcher wrote:
> > Ed Fletcher wrote:
> >
> >> niran wrote:
> >>
> >>> Ed Fletcher Wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Does anyone know of a Gnome interface to iwlist and iwconfig?
> >>>> Or is there something else I should be using?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I'm running Warty and I use Debian's netapplet package:
> >>> http://packages.debian.org/unstable/gnome/netapplet
> >>>
> >>> If you're running Hoary, I think there's a package in universe that
> >>> depends on Gnome 2.9 libraries. Netapplet hasn't been all that great
> >>> for me though. When I tell it to use the wireless interface, it doesn't
> >>> get an ip address for it (or maybe it tries and fails). I run dhclient
> >>> on the interface afterwards to get everything set up.
> >>> Another option is NetworkManager:
> >>> http://people.ubuntu.com/~thom/network-manager/
> >>>
> >>> I haven't been able to try that one out because Warty's ndiswrapper
> >>> version doesn't report it's capabilities to HAL, so NetworkManager
> >>> ignores it. If you're not using ndiswrapper, it might be worth a shot.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> The wiki page on this topic is here:
> >>> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/NetworkMagic
> >>>
> >>> I'm not sure where Ubuntu is heading post-Hoary in regards to these two
> >>> projects, nor what the "shame about the implementation" is about in
> >>> regards to NetworkManager (it'd be nice to see that added to the wiki),
> >>> but for Hoary it looks like netapplet is the preferred solution.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Hi Niran:
> >>
> >> I'm running Warty without the ndiswrapper, so I'll have a look at
> >> NetworkManager.  The SMC2835 works great at home but I've had lots of
> >> problems in places like coffee shops where I don't know the channel
> >> nor the BSSID.  I'll load NetworkManager tomorrow and give it a try on
> >> Thursday.
> >>
> >> Many thanks,
> >> Ed
> >
> >
> > Okay, I installed NetworkManager as per the web page quoted by Niran. No
> > problems.  But it didn't activate when I logged out and logged back in
> > again.  So I rebooted and got an error message during the boot sequence
> > when NetworkManager was trying to load.  It complained about iw_scan.
> > Didn't have a clue what that was and I didn't have a command called
> > iwscan on my system (hmmm . . . still don't).  So I googled iw_scan and
> > found a page that mentioned it wasn't available in the older versions of
> > wirelesstools.  So I fired up Synaptic, did a reload and there was an
> > update available for wireless tools.  Did the update and rebooted
> > again.  NetworkManager loaded correctly.  The icon (looks like a radar
> > screen) appeared in the right corner in the top task bar.  It scanned
> > and picked up my network and what I think is probably my neighbors
> > network.  I selected mine and I was connected.  NetworkManager then shut
> > itself down.  But the icon is still there with the rotating radar image
> > going around.
> >
> > Oddly enough, my wireless connection was enabled during boot and I saw
> > that I was able to connect to the timeserver and update the time.  Once
> > I  logged in and NetworkManager started, the wireless connection was
> > down until I selected a network.  And since NetworkManager is no longer
> > running, I have to log out and log back in again to switch networks.
> > However, I don't see having to do that too often so I doubt that it will
> > be a problem.
> >
> > All in all, I must say that so far I'm very happy with NetworkManager.
> > I'll try it in a coffee shop tomorrow to see how it performs in the real
> > world and let everyone on the list know.
> >
> > Thanks again Niran for the pointer.
> >
> > BTW, I'm sending this from my laptop via wireless.
> >
> > Ed
> 
> Well, NetworkManager works a treat.  I'm in the coffee shop (free
> wireless) and it picked up five different signals.  Selected the one I
> wanted and it made the connection.
> 
> Only thing different from yesterday is that NetworkManager stayed
> running this time.  At home, it shut itself down after making the
> connection.  So if I wanted to switch networks, I could do it without
> having to log out and log back in again.  Sweet!
> 
> This is truly painless.
> 
> Ed
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