does a commercial ogg-enabled "mp3-player" exist?

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sorry to crowd your inboxes but, I had to recognize this message, as I
am (most probably) buying the thing (m5 or x5) bc. of this user :) And
people tell buying toys for linux is hard :PpPp



Franko30 Wrote: 
> Hi,

> 

> as I'm lazy, I just copy a reply I gave in another thread like this, to
> be found here:

> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=572697

> 

> The message:

> I just read the German LinuxUser 12/2005. They have a special on Linux
> compatible Ogg (and MP3) players.

> 

> THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS THAT YOU SHOULD STAY AWAY FROM PLAYERS WITH
> THE MICROSFT 'PLAYSFORSURE' LABEL. THIS- ACCORDING TO THE MAGAZINE -
> MOST CERTAINLY MEANS THAT THE DEVICE WILL NOT WORK UNDER LINUX. FOR
> INSTANCE THE IRIVER T10+T20+T30 SEEM TO CAUSE PROBLEMS. PLEASE VISIT
> WWW.PLAYSFORSURE.COM TO FIND THE PLAYERS YOU DON'T WANT TO BUY. :-(
> 

> LinuxUser 12/2005 tested 8 Players:

> 

> Trekstor: i.Beat Organix + i.Beat 300

> Maxfield: Max-Diablo + Max-Movie + Max-Diamond

> COWON: IAUDIO X5 + IAUDIO M5 + IAUDIO G3
> They also wanted to test some Samsung Players - but they arrived too
> late.

> 

> All players work as external harddiscs under Linux. And all of the
> above (except  the Trekstor i.Beat Organix and Cowon G3) support
> firmware updates using Linux. The Cowon X5 and M5 also support FLAC and
> are the fastest concerning data transfer! All Maxfield players and the
> i.Beat 300 don't support id3 tags for Ogg Vorbis files... The Cowon X5
> is now also available with 60GB harddisc.

> 

> *Sound quality:* An important feature, often forgotten...

> LinuxUser says that the best Flash Memory Players sound a lot worse
> than the worst tested Harddisc Player. :-(

> 

> That said, they recommend the Cowon X5 and M5 as having the best sound
> quality (especially when plugging them onto your home audio system
> using decent speakers). The best sounding Flash Memory Players seem to
> be the Max-Movie and the Cowon G3.

> 

> Personally I recommend to throw away any headphone delivered with a
> player and user a Koss Porta Pro or Sporta Pro - those two sound as
> good as any expensive (and much bigger) Sennheiser or AKG equipment...

> 

> My two cents concerning the *Archos AV400 100 GB* I own:

> 

> This one can only be mounted read-only in Ubuntu 5.04 and 5.10, no
> matter what I tried (even putting entries in fstab and other stuff).
> -After re-formatting the whole thing (FAT32) in Ubuntu it gets mounted
> read-write when plugging it in.- Unfortunately, the player now only
> works on a Windows 200 machine - but not in Windows XP. The disc
> manager (correct term? I use a German Win XP) declares the file system
> as 'FAT32 - unknown'... And, the funny thing is, that now I'm stuck
> with this, as Win 2K and XP only format 32 GB of my 100 GB as FAT32 and
> I don't have access to an old Win 98 machine.

> 

> To write replies to this problem, please use this thread:

> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=103472

> 

> Cheers

> 

> Franko30


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