does a commercial ogg-enabled "mp3-player" exist?

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Hi,



as I'm lazy, I just copy a reply I gave in another thread like this, to
be found here:

http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=572697



The message:

I just read the German LinuxUser 12/2005. They have a special on Linux
compatible Ogg (and MP3) players.



THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS THAT YOU SHOULD STAY AWAY FROM PLAYERS WITH
THE MICROSFT 'PLAYSFORSURE' LABEL. THIS- ACCORDING TO THE MAGAZINE -
MOST CERTAINLY MEANS THAT THE DEVICE WILL NOT WORK UNDER LINUX. FOR
INSTANCE THE IRIVER T10+T20+T30 SEEM TO CAUSE PROBLEMS. PLEASE VISIT
WWW.PLAYSFORSURE.COM TO FIND THE PLAYERS YOU DON'T WANT TO BUY. :-(


LinuxUser 12/2005 tested 8 Players:



Trekstor: i.Beat Organix + i.Beat 300

Maxfield: Max-Diablo + Max-Movie + Max-Diamond

COWON: IAUDIO X5 + IAUDIO M5 + IAUDIO G3
They also wanted to test some Samsung Players - but they arrived too
late.



All players work as external harddiscs under Linux. And all of the
above (except  the Trekstor i.Beat Organix and Cowon G3) support
firmware updates using Linux. The Cowon X5 and M5 also support FLAC and
are the fastest concerning data transfer! All Maxfield players and the
i.Beat 300 don't support id3 tags for Ogg Vorbis files... The Cowon X5
is now also available with 60GB harddisc.



*Sound quality:* An important feature, often forgotten...

LinuxUser says that the best Flash Memory Players sound a lot worse
than the worst tested Harddisc Player. :-(



That said, they recommend the Cowon X5 and M5 as having the best sound
quality (especially when plugging them onto your home audio system
using decent speakers). The best sounding Flash Memory Players seem to
be the Max-Movie and the Cowon G3.



Personally I recommend to throw away any headphone delivered with a
player and user a Koss Porta Pro or Sporta Pro - those two sound as
good as any expensive (and much bigger) Sennheiser or AKG equipment...



My two cents concerning the *Archos AV400 100 GB* I own:



This one can only be mounted read-only in Ubuntu 5.04 and 5.10, no
matter what I tried (even putting entries in fstab and other stuff).
-After re-formatting the whole thing (FAT32) in Ubuntu it gets mounted
read-write when plugging it in.- Unfortunately, the player now only
works on a Windows 200 machine - but not in Windows XP. The disc
manager (correct term? I use a German Win XP) declares the file system
as 'FAT32 - unknown'... And, the funny thing is, that now I'm stuck
with this, as Win 2K and XP only format 32 GB of my 100 GB as FAT32 and
I don't have access to an old Win 98 machine.



To write replies to this problem, please use this thread:

http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=103472



Cheers



Franko30


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Franko30