Things I already hate about Kubuntu (new user)

[Mario Vukelic]

On Tue, 2005-12-20 at 16:53 -0500, Felix Miata wrote:
> the best of sysadmins are its main
> users and proponents. It's one of the reasons they are the best. If you
> want to alienate such people from your distro, this is an excellent way
> to do it.

No sysadm will have a problem with aptitude install mc

> I'm not familiar with all distros, but I do know that when I do a
> default install of Fedora, Mandriva, SuSE or Xandros, 

How many CDs does SuSE have? When I stopped looking, it was 8 or so. All
the others aren't single disc either afaik.

> mc is ready when I
> am to finish what the installer failed to finish, system configuration,
> and proceed with system administration, and without wasting time pulling
> off an internet connection

And in Ubuntu's case, you need 1 command before that. This does not look
like a strong case for a wishlist bug :)

> that may not be available just to get where
> you should have been to start with.

A failing internet connection can be fixed without mc just as well as
with mc. And given its goals, Ubuntu better aim at not failing to set it
up instead of bending over to provide redundant ways to fix it when it
does fail.

> Distro admins who don't have the wisdom
> to include an OFM don't deserve success for their distro. Knowledgeable
> sysadmins will continue to stick with distros that understand this. (etc)

Please, there is absolutely no need for these flames. You are free to
use another distro because it includes mc. Let's keep this within the
code of conduct.

Kind regards,
Mario