Ubuntu is under attack

[Anders Karlsson]

On 12/20/05, Mike Bird <mgb-ubuntu at yosemite.net> wrote:
> We have shown numerous reasons why installing an MTA on all Ubuntu
> systems is the right thing to do.  We have shown that it is more
> in accord with the Ubuntu goal of "Just Works" then the alternative
> of not providing an MTA out of the box.  The Unix tradition (which
> is in effect the accumulated wisdom of millions of man-years of
> development) says that a mail system should be installed.

No Mike, what you have shown is what you want and what you think is
the only workable solution. If you want that MTA installed by default,
use Ubuntu Server. It does exactly what you want.

There is absolutely no need to make the Desktop install worse just
because a few people seem incapable of chosing the right tool for the
job...

> And your reasoned and carefully explicated counter-argument is:
> "An MTA is not required on the desktop."  "It's more of a server
> capability."

Which is true. A desktop install need not have a MTA as a desktop
install usually connects to a server for mail capabilities. To draw
parallels with the Windows world, WinXP Pro has no MTA installed. You
require the Exchange Server install to get a MTA.

> Forgive us if we stick with logic over "Mommy knows best", kept
> promises (Ubuntu goals) over broken promises, and evidence
> over ignorance.

I don't get your logic. If you want to use the Ubuntu desktop install,
all you need to do is "apt-get install postfix mailx" and your
'problem' is solved. All this whining is pointless Mike. Use the
server install image, and you wont even have to tell it to install
postfix.

> How many alerts has your Ubuntu sent you that you will never
> know about?

Not a single one, as instead of ranting and raving, making myself a
laughingstock, I used apt to install what I required and got on with
things.

If you want to carry on the argument, take it off list. People are
starting to get sick of it.

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Anders Karlsson <trudheim at gmail.com>