Running Google Talk on ubuntu

Aaron Kiley aaron.kiley at gmail.com
Wed Dec 14 14:26:50 UTC 2005


Mate you should get out more......

On 14/12/05, Eric Dunbar <eric.dunbar at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Great. Yet another POSITIVE comment coming out of the Linux
> "community" (whatever that may be... open source/Linux fandamentalism
> is harmful IMNSHO).
>
> >From Google Talk:
> "5. What protocols are used for voice calls?
>
> Google Talk supports a custom XMPP-based signaling protocol and
> peer-to-peer communication mechanism. We will fully document this
> protocol. In the near future, we plan to support SIP signaling.
>
> 6. Which voice codecs do you support?
>
> Today, Google Talk supports the following standard voice codecs: PCMA,
> PCMU, G.723, iLBC. We are also evaluating the Speex codec. We also
> support codecs from Global IP Sound: ISAC, IPCMWB, EG711U, EG711A"
>
> "3. Do you plan to support the Google Talk client on other platforms?
>
> We look forward to the Google Talk client supporting Linux and Mac OSX
> in the future."
>
> Take deep breath. Step on soap box.
>
> I am tired of hearing people whinge about open source and/or Linux and
> how companies/individuals should jump to support their favourite
> distro without providing the company with incentive or reason to do
> so. Just because is not good enough!
>
> To set the record straight re: Google Talk, Linux and the obligations
> of Linux users re: others.
>
> A. Linux is provided with only one string attached!
> Changes/improvements to the software covered by the licence(s) must be
> made available to others. NOTHING MORE! No other legal or moral
> obligation gets placed on the user regarding their own software/other
> software. NONE!!! ABSOLUTELY NONE
>
> If we reason that merely because a company (e.g. Google) _uses_ Linux
> they are obligated to write software for Linux (for free ($$$)
> presumbly), then we can also reason that every single individual USER
> of Linux who uses Linux in their professional lives (or personal
> lives), then they owe the wider "Linux community" their services FOR
> FREE!
>
> B. Dealing with FACTS.
>
> (General comment... see two paragraphs below) Resources are FINITE.
> Linux on the desktop is a TINY market (vs. Windows) with little
> potential to SELL software. Most Linuxers expect FREE ($$$) software,
> and, some purists demand free (code) software (the two groups are NOT
> necessarily the same). Neither of these attitudes are conducive to the
> SALE of software (reminder: see 2 para below before commenting)
>
> >From a practical point of view it makes little sense to devote
> resources to making an app for a group of platforms which comprise a
> tiny portion of the paying market. Mac OS X is a better choice because
> it's one platform, has a respectable number of users (vs. desktop
> Linux... to paraphrase the US comment on the EU governance model...
> "who do we consult when we want to code for `Linux'?"), and, is a
> great spring-board for going to Linux given that Mac OS X is a full
> blown *nix (that doesn't change every five minutes or has a wide range
> of configuration issues).
>
> PS Granted, Google doesn't make its money off selling user-level
> software (except for Google Earth so far), but, that still doesn't
> mean they should run out and write software IMMEDIATELY (when they
> state they will do so eventually) which is going to divert scarce
> resources from other worthwhile projects (and, arguably Google is
> doing AMAZING things with their scarce resources... Google Maps really
> is giving the others a run for their money... I haven't use MapQuest
> for aeons and Yahoo Maps is only pulled up in rare occasions).
>
> B. Part two: See the quotes above. According to their OWN statements,
> Google IS planning on Mac OS X and Linux versions! And, Google WILL
> release the information needed for 3rd parties to do voice chat with
> Google Talk (and, someone else on this list posted that one of the
> authors of GAIM has established ties with Google Talk).
>
> Take deep breath. End of soap box rant!
>
> Eric.
>
> On 12/13/05, Serg Belokamen <serg.belokamen at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Its rather ironic isn't it. Google, company essentialy built on Linux
> > technologies does not provide Linux clients to users. A very nice
> > thank you in did. Do no evil my ass.
> >
> >   Serg
> >
> > On 14/12/05, Giorgos <pinkisntwell at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > The only reason I keep booting into windows is to use the voice chat
> > > feature of google talk. It doesn't work with wine atm and I can
> connect
> > > to google talk's servers with gaim but you have to have the official
> > > client to use the voice chat.
> > >
> > > This functionality is vital to me, I have installed skype but it gives
> > > me problems (laggy in both windows and linux versions.)
> > >
> > >
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