intrusion detected
Brian Puccio
brian at brianpuccio.net
Fri Aug 12 23:15:15 UTC 2005
On Fri, 2005-08-12 at 15:33 +0200, albi at scii.nl wrote:
> On Fri, 12 Aug 2005 09:32:29 +0800
> Brian Walker <bfwalker at gmail.com> wrote:
> > 2. When Linux becomes even easier to install and use, we will see pure M$
> > lusers running - say - Ubuntu just like a M$ box - they will be casual,
> > ignorant, fearful of CLI and have no concept of what/where /var/log is
> > 3. I left my box open to the net through ssh, and had not installed a
> > firewall .... one of the things I was going to get around to when I had time
> > to read the manual and actually understand what I was doing ..... hah!
> > Scanners had picked me up and were trying to brute-force the password. Yes,
> > they failed, but it was probably only a matter of time. There are possibly
> > many out there like me.
>
> imho your example does not really make sense, as ubuntu does not install
> the ssh-server by default
> (you expect clueless "fearfull of CLI" newbies to install
> the ssh-server in ubuntu ?)
I don't have the ssh-server installed on my laptop yet I use the CLI.
> apart from that i can imagine that in time security in linux will only
> become better
Define better. More bugs being found and fixed? Less bugs being found
and fixed? No bugs at all found and nothing to fix?
> installing a firewall with e.g. firestarter or gnome-lokkit is not that
> very difficult btw
A firewall is useless if the less then brilliant user goes and downloads
a trojan by way of clicking one of those "punch the monkey" flash ads.
I believe this is the type of user the grand parent poster was talking
about. A system can be the most secure thing going, but if the user
doesn't have a clue, its all for nothing.
(The most secure machine is one not hooked up to the internet, but
what's the fun in that?)
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