List noise - a fine example

[David]

There are those of you that are going to say that I'm being as bad as 
anyone else.. but below is a fine example of how NOT to post to a list -
about 200 lines of quote, and if you go right to the bottom, you will find 
this fine person's contribution, which is:

"AMEN!!!!!!!"

I'm sure you are a thoroughly nice chap, A1ex, but please don't do that, 
because it clutters up the discussion. Possibly would have been better to 
mutter "AMEN" under your breath *instead* of posting.

While I'm on a soapbox, perhaps folks could suitably alter the subject 
line? What has Hard Drive Warranty got to do with that terrific 
"PERFORMANCE SHOCK" flame war?

kind regards...

David... 
   ...who forlornly hopes that listees will think before posting.



On Mon, Apr 25, 2005 at 10:29:53AM -0400, A1ex wrote:
> CB wrote:
> 
> >On 4/24/05, Tom Adelstein <adelste at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > 
> >
> >>I just accidentally saw the contents of this post and I could not
> >>believe what I saw.
> >>
> >>I've been testing desktops for over two years and one half years now and
> >>to say that Microsoft Windows runs faster than Linux one the same
> >>configurations is just wrong.
> >>
> >>If in fact you are experiencing such an aberrant behavior, then you know
> >>how to tune Windows and don't know how to configure Linux.
> >>
> >>Otherwise, this thread is a Microsoft disinformation effort. Either way,
> >>it's despicable. If you don't know enough about Linux to tune up Open
> >>Office, then you need to do you homework.
> >>
> >>Also, if you're running lots of services -- as in server mode -- compare
> >>the performance of Linux to Windows 2000 server running the same number
> >>of services.
> >>
> >>No way Windows on a comparable platform outperforms Linux. I've proven
> >>it hundreds of times.
> >>
> >>   
> >>
> >
> >OK. I'm out. I hesitated about asking this question straightforwardly
> >because I've observed that asking mildly critical-sounding questions
> >in linux forums almost always generates torrents of abuse. Admittedly,
> >in this case everyone except you has been constructive, but your
> >revolting post is enough. I'm unsubscribing right away because I'm
> >just sick of this kind of crap that makes open, honest,
> >straightforward communication about technology (technology! not war or
> >rape or starvation!) just impossible.
> >
> >You call someone *despicable* because they ask a question that doesn't
> >match your experiences/prejudices. What fucking world have you
> >experienced -- anything at all beyond porn and computers? "Despicable"
> >can appropriately be said of child-abusers, not people who ask
> >questions about a piece of technology you favour.
> >
> >Specifically, factually, really, I was referring to *untuned* fresh
> >installs on both Ubuntu and Win 2003 Server. Stock installs with
> >minimal services running. All I did on both was install a couple of
> >apps (and SP1  on the Win partition). I'm not even making any general
> >statements about the performance of Linux "vs" (your kind of term, I
> >guess) Windows (you'd know it by Windoze or Winblows, no doubt); this
> >was just a comment on desktop responsiveness. Or am I lying? A
> >Microsoft stoolie? What? Why?
> >
> >Before finishing with you, let me tell you two small things. 
> >
> >One. I have been diligently installing Ubuntu on friends' computers
> >now for the past year, because I like it and like it's underlying
> >ethics, and believe these friends should get off the Microsoft
> >monopoly bandwagon if they can. In many cases I've had to work hard to
> >persuade these friends to try linux again, because they've been burned
> >by trying it, having problems, and then asking questions in forums and
> >mailing lists. There they meet you and your clones, get abused, have
> >no source of help, so reinstall Windows. You and people like you are
> >driving ordinary users away.
> >
> >Two. My main reason for seriously making attempts to migrate all my
> >computer-based work away from Microsoft's OS's is this. I worked in a
> >heavily MS-based business, consisting mainly of a very large WinNT &
> >Win2k server centre (3000+ servers). I observed time and again how MS
> >uses its power to distort and corrupt the IT business. The final straw
> >for me was when I witnessed them bribe the company I worked in to keep
> >quiet about a security problem we found. This was a very serious
> >issue, exposing tens of thousands of private customer records on
> >competitors' servers to easy access across the net. MS persuaded this
> >company not to pull a product that was based on the vulnerable
> >technology, and stopped us from warning competitors that their
> >information was exposed. I felt dirty working there, blew the whistle
> >anonymously (though, interestingly, the press wasn't interested), and
> >quit. The point is that I have no reason to favour Microsoft, would
> >never do any form of business with them, and don't need to be told by
> >some grossly ignorant prejudiced juvenile that a question I ask in
> >good faith derives from some 'Microsoft disinformation effort'. Fuck
> >you.
> >
> > 
> >
> AMEN!!!!!!!
> alex
> 
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