Problem installing Hoary on AMD64 Asus K8S-MX

[Anders Wallenquist]

Matt Zimmerman wrote:

>On Thu, Mar 31, 2005 at 11:19:39PM +0200, Anders Wallenquist wrote:
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>>Matt Zimmerman wrote:
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>>>The nForce chipsets are well supported.  I have no experience with either
>>>of the ones you mention.
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>>I believe the lack of buying guides for supported hardware for a specific
>>kernel/distribution are a huge problem. In the perspective that the
>>strategy of choosing drivers to bundle with a certain kernel (especialy on
>>the install media) also gives us what boxes that are supported. When
>>designing the AMD64-K8-kernel the chipsets that are developed for that
>>processor are very limited and it whould be logical that check a few of
>>these product-lines with the choosen drivers. As long as that home-work
>>are done (and documented) we also have the basics for a buying guide.
>>Maybe this information exists, but few knows where to find and how to
>>read.
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>Perhaps this is something that you can help us with.  Many users have
>contributed their experiences in the wiki, here:
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>http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HardwareSupport
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>This information could be collected into a buying guide of sorts.
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Well, to collect peoples test, buy and ebay experiences, isnt that a 
think loop? I still beleive that people who makes the strategy of bundle 
drivers to a kernel also know what they are doing. The opposit is 
absurd; release a kernel for a architecture that not practically exists. 
Why not match lists of bundled drivers for chipsets in the kernel with 
popular motherboards?

I like the idea of collecting good referenses in a database that for 
example the device manager do (ubuntu hardware database collection 
tool), and I'm willing to contribute to that database. I think its 
better to collect this type of information in machine readable form than 
let hardware amateurs like me try to describe what we have infront of 
us. Are there plans to let us plain users search this database in the 
near future?

In an ideal world manufaktuers sends us lists of chipsets for their 
products in the same machine readable format that we can collect and 
match with the ubuntu hardware database :-)

>>So if the AMD64-K8 are built for nForce-based motherboards its very 
>>useful information
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>Our amd64 kernels are not built for specific chipsets; they support any
>chipsets that the Linux kernel developers have written support for.
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Yes, and someone made a choice selecting drivers for ubuntu-installer 
(d-i) by all drivers the Linux kernel developers has written. This 
selection also gives you a number of motherboards and then a number of 
possible computers that works out of the box. I thougth it was easier 
today because more and more functions are shrinkwrapt in the same 
chipset. You have harddrive, ethernet, audio, graphics (maybe not) on 
the same motherbord or even the same chip. One chipset becomes 
onehundred computer labels with the same characteristics.

>nForce happens to be what I use for testing, so I can tell you my personal
>experience with it.
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Thats my point, you had to get your personal experience to know if it 
works. The method buy, test and ebay. (and for every purchase you get a 
copy of Windows XP). Today the timespan for that knowledge are getting 
even shorter. I bought a HP nx7000 six month ago that works nice with 
Warty and Hoary, but will it work with nx7010 that ships today? The 
nx7000 did not work very well with Debian Sarge, so Warty made a HP 
customer happy after a month of struggeling. What laptop should I 
recommend with Ubuntu when I get the question, today, in three month?

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