3D and Nvidia
Lee
clland64 at charter.net
Wed Sep 22 02:02:41 UTC 2004
What do I need to do to get 3d working? As well as glx?
On Tue, 2004-09-21 at 21:18 -0400, ubuntu-users-request at lists.ubuntu.com
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> 1. Re: Plugins for watching DVD, SVCD, VCD, Divx, Xvid with
> totem-xine? (R S Gill)
> 2. Re: /usr on USB (John)
> 3. Re: Plugins for watching DVD, SVCD, VCD, Divx, Xvid with
> totem-xine? (Markus Kolb)
> 4. Re: (Tobias Engvall)
> 5. Re: /usr on USB (Matt Zimmerman)
> 6. Re: Desktop Background change.... (Mark)
> 7. Re: Plugins for watching DVD, SVCD, VCD, Divx, Xvid with
> totem-xine? (John)
> 8. Re: Plugins for watching DVD, SVCD, VCD, Divx, Xvid with
> totem-xine? (John)
> 9. Re: /usr on USB (John)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 18:59:39 -0500
> From: R S Gill <rsgill at purdue.edu>
> Subject: Re: Plugins for watching DVD, SVCD, VCD, Divx, Xvid with
> totem-xine?
> Cc: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
> Message-ID: <4150C06B.4090806 at purdue.edu>
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> I'm not aware ofany such tool as I've never had a use for it.
>
> Gill
>
> "From time to time, the tree of liberty must be watered with the blood
> of tyrants and patriots." -- Thomas Jefferson
>
> "Those who have long enjoyed such privileges as we enjoy forget in
> time that men have died to win them" -- FDR
>
> "People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men
> stand ready to do violence on their behalf" -- George Orwell
>
>
>
> Markus Kolb wrote:
>
> | On 22.09.2004 01:13, R S Gill schrieb:
> |
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> |> Forgot to mention, for watching dvds do sudo aptitude install
> |> libdvdcss2
> |>
> |
> | Hey Gill,
> |
> | ok thanks. For now I have installed this win32-codecs package. Divx
> | is now working and one SVCD I have tested, too.
> |
> | Another VCD kind makes still problems. Is there a tool like in
> | Windows which can tell me which codec for audio and video is used.
> | Then search would be much easier.
> |
> | bye Markus
> |
> | BTW I read the list, you don't need to PM me.
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> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 08:09:11 +0800
> From: John <dingo at coco2.arach.net.au>
> Subject: Re: /usr on USB
> Cc: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
> Message-ID: <4150C2A7.5030104 at coco2.arach.net.au>
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> Matt Zimmerman wrote:
>
> >On Tue, Sep 21, 2004 at 12:34:51PM +0800, John wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >>Matt Zimmerman wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>hotplug runs after /usr is mounted, so that's one reason this won't work
> >>>out
> >>>of the box.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>then hotplug and everything it needs should not be in /usr.
> >>
> >>http://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.html#PURPOSE2
> >>You cann;ot "boot, restore, recover, and/or repair the system" without /usr.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >My interpretation would be "you cannot put /usr on a hot-plugged device",
> >which seems equally sane.
> >
> >
> >
>
> I booted with the drive in place. It's no more transient than, say, an
> NFS mount. The network might go away, just as some twit might pull the
> drive out.
>
> It should no more problematic than booting from USB.
>
> As you said the other day, "shooting yourself in the foot is optional."
>
> Oh, I think Hot Plug won't cope with an nfs mount for /usr either.
>
> People really do that sort of thing.
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 02:21:24 +0200
> From: Markus Kolb <ubuntu-ml at tower-net.de>
> Subject: Re: Plugins for watching DVD, SVCD, VCD, Divx, Xvid with
> totem-xine?
> To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
> Message-ID: <4150C584.9060001 at tower-net.de>
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> On 22.09.2004 01:47, John schrieb:
>
> [...]
> > I've gone off apt-get.org because I don't see that it's properly
> > controlled.
> [...]
> > Some time in the future the owner decides to plop Gnome, growisofs
> > and/other stuff in there.
>
> You are right. Additional it is very unsafe to install packages from
> unknown. If you don't check the content. It could be done everything
> with your system.
> I think it will only need time that there are packages with backdoors
> and stuff like this in the apt-get.org repositories.
>
> I have found here http://mplayerhq.hu/MPlayer/releases/codecs/ many
> packed archives with a lot of codecs.
>
> cu
>
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 02:20:41 +0200
> From: Tobias Engvall <tumm at dtek.chalmers.se>
> Subject: Re:
> To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
> Message-ID: <20040922002041.GA18632 at dtek.chalmers.se>
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> On Tue Sep 21 16:23:27, Matt Zimmerman wrote:
>
> > What kind of install are you doing? This sounds like:
> >
> > https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1300
>
> I'm doing an "ordinary" install from a cd-iso, i've tried both
> the 4.10 cd-image and the daily cd-image.
>
> dmesg is roughly the same as in above bugzilla item, the difference beeing
> that I have a cdrom drive, which registers as the disc0/... udev entry.
>
> I'll try to provide complete dmesg and lspci outputs tomorrow. However, the
> bugdescription at debian,
> ( Better URL: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=270162 )
> matches the problem better.
>
> Cheers,
> Tobias
> --
> Tobias Engvall - tumm at dtek.chalmers.se
> "Emacs is a great operating system---it lacks a good editor, though."
> -Thomer M. Gil
>
>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 17:27:15 -0700
> From: Matt Zimmerman <mdz at canonical.com>
> Subject: Re: /usr on USB
> To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
> Message-ID: <20040922002715.GQ8010 at alcor.net>
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> On Wed, Sep 22, 2004 at 08:09:11AM +0800, John wrote:
>
> > Matt Zimmerman wrote:
> >
> > >My interpretation would be "you cannot put /usr on a hot-plugged device",
> > >which seems equally sane.
> >
> > I booted with the drive in place. It's no more transient than, say, an
> > NFS mount. The network might go away, just as some twit might pull the
> > drive out.
>
> Likewise, it's no less transient than a keyboard or mouse. :-)
>
> But seriously, there's only so much infrastructure we can promote earlier in
> the boot process to accomodate extreme filesystem configurations. Linux
> provides a lot of flexibility in this area; filesystems can be driven from
> userspace, and rely on LDAP servers, HTTP proxies, VPN links, and other
> things which are brought up later in the boot process.
>
> > It should no more problematic than booting from USB.
>
> I've never tried booting from a USB hard disk; I imagine the BIOS would have
> to provide some emulation help, or else the boot loader would never cope.
>
> > Oh, I think Hot Plug won't cope with an nfs mount for /usr either.
>
> Yes, I think we may have inadvertently broken that with an optimisation.
> I'll look into it. NFS gets special treament, and is mounted later in the
> boot process. USB doesn't (and couldn't use the same mechanism).
>
> --
> - mdz
>
>
>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 01:38:50 +0100
> From: Mark <lists at funkypenguin.net>
> Subject: Re: Desktop Background change....
> To: Barry Houck <barryhouck at charter.net>
> Cc: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
> Message-ID: <1095813530.7109.3.camel at localhost.localdomain>
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>
> On Tue, 2004-09-21 at 19:49 -0400, Barry Houck wrote:
> > Hello
> >
> > How do you change a background image from gnome-look.com?
>
> Download the required wallpaper to your local workstation and then
> Right click on the desktop and choose: Change Desktop Background.
>
> Then just drag and drop your required wallpaper into the window...
>
> Mark
>
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 08:52:10 +0800
> From: John <dingo at coco2.arach.net.au>
> Subject: Re: Plugins for watching DVD, SVCD, VCD, Divx, Xvid with
> totem-xine?
> Cc: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
> Message-ID: <4150CCBA.1050305 at coco2.arach.net.au>
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> R S Gill wrote:
>
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> > That never occured to me. I have used apt-get.org before without any
> > problems.
> >
> > Gill
>
>
> Pls don't reply direct.
>
> I had a Woody system in some disarray before I thought of that. It
> worked, but I didn't know what came from where.
>
> I do use backports.org, but I don't think they do U. Hopefully, won't be
> needed.
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
> Message: 8
> Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 09:04:25 +0800
> From: John <dingo at coco2.arach.net.au>
> Subject: Re: Plugins for watching DVD, SVCD, VCD, Divx, Xvid with
> totem-xine?
> Cc: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
> Message-ID: <4150CF99.8030905 at coco2.arach.net.au>
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>
> Markus Kolb wrote:
>
> > On 22.09.2004 01:47, John schrieb:
> >
> > [...]
> >
> >> I've gone off apt-get.org because I don't see that it's properly
> >> controlled.
> >
> > [...]
> >
> >> Some time in the future the owner decides to plop Gnome, growisofs
> >> and/other stuff in there.
> >
> >
> > You are right. Additional it is very unsafe to install packages from
> > unknown. If you don't check the content. It could be done everything
> > with your system.
> > I think it will only need time that there are packages with backdoors
> > and stuff like this in the apt-get.org repositories.
>
>
> Well, it has happened with several official sites; there was a mirror in
> .nl some years ago. sendmail and Debian sites have been breached.
>
>
> Iven if you _know_ you got that Zmailer package from me, you don't know
> what I did to it:-)
>
> >
> > I have found here http://mplayerhq.hu/MPlayer/releases/codecs/ many
> > packed archives with a lot of codecs.
> >
> Here's another site for us all to blindly trust:-)
>
> I've not yet been hit with a Trojan Horse (that I've noriced), but I do
> know the risk exists, that I've been lucky, and I do still take the risk.
>
> Presumably, if anyone significant in the OS movement springs a leak they
> will either fess up to it quickly (as Sendmail and Debian did) or be
> sprung by someone who notices. Mostly, OS companies depend on good will,
> and papering over mistakes does not promote good will. If, say, Red Hat
> offends, there's are comanies such as Progeny ready to take a slice of
> its business: anyone can offer the same software, and many do. Built
> from RH source, no less.
>
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 9
> Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 09:17:43 +0800
> From: John <dingo at coco2.arach.net.au>
> Subject: Re: /usr on USB
> Cc: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
> Message-ID: <4150D2B7.8070904 at coco2.arach.net.au>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
>
> Matt Zimmerman wrote:
>
> >On Wed, Sep 22, 2004 at 08:09:11AM +0800, John wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >>Matt Zimmerman wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>My interpretation would be "you cannot put /usr on a hot-plugged device",
> >>>which seems equally sane.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>I booted with the drive in place. It's no more transient than, say, an
> >>NFS mount. The network might go away, just as some twit might pull the
> >>drive out.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >Likewise, it's no less transient than a keyboard or mouse. :-)
> >
> >
>
> From what I hear, hotplugging PS/2 can fry the mobo. A mate had a bad
> experience, so I don't do it any more.
>
> >But seriously, there's only so much infrastructure we can promote earlier in
> >the boot process to accomodate extreme filesystem configurations. Linux
> >provides a lot of flexibility in this area; filesystems can be driven from
> >userspace, and rely on LDAP servers, HTTP proxies, VPN links, and other
> >things which are brought up later in the boot process.
> >
> >
> >
> >>It should no more problematic than booting from USB.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >I've never tried booting from a USB hard disk; I imagine the BIOS would have
> >to provide some emulation help, or else the boot loader would never cope.
> >
> >
>
> Didn't you say you have a Powerbook? I am pretty sure that will boot
> from firewire.
>
> My HP Evectra boots from USB. I hear thumbdrives and such are pretty
> handy recovery devices because people can boot from them. Isn't that how
> d-i installs from one? People also like them fir firewalls, so I guess
> lots of people boot them,
>
> Depending on the USB interface, I can get to about 30 Mbytes/sec on my
> USB drive. Running Ubuntu off it is a reasonable proposition: I install
> on it here, take it to my brothers' place about 14 Km away, run it on
> his machine, maybe boot it in Internet Cafes around the world on my next
> world trip (whether they'd allow it isn't the issue).
>
>
> >
> >
> >>Oh, I think Hot Plug won't cope with an nfs mount for /usr either.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >Yes, I think we may have inadvertently broken that with an optimisation.
> >I'll look into it. NFS gets special treament, and is mounted later in the
> >boot process. USB doesn't (and couldn't use the same mechanism).
> >
> >
>
> Tried NFS over wireless? As I've pointed out, the standard Ubuntu
> requres /usr to load wireless' firmware.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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