Ubuntu community meeting on artwork: Monday 18 October, 1400 UTC on #ubuntu

Bryan Pizzuti bpizzuti at optonline.net
Sat Oct 16 05:11:06 UTC 2004


 I would really love to be online to participate in this discussion, as it's
very important to Ubuntu's development and acceptance.  Unfortunately,
that's 10 AM here, and I have a dentist's appointment at 10:30. So instead
of attending, I would just ask that everyone keep in mind everything that's
been discussed here, but especially those of us who are involved in getting
buisnesses to accept Linux, and specifically Ubuntu. Also keep in mind other
cultures that do not find humans on the desktop acceptable, and accept that
fact, since you'd want them to respect your culture as well. The best
solution to wide acceptance is minimal annoyance...I mentioned this before
but it bears repeating: to get as wide acceptance as possible, you need to
offend  or annoy as few as possible. This is why most Oses are fairly
"boring and blah," true. That's because they know what needs to be done.
They also know there is a minority that will want it jazzed up to whatever,
and also include the tools to do so, should the user find it necessary and
desirable. 

This is mostof what I would have said in the meeting...maybe if it's still
going on when I get home I'll try to pop in and participate.  I'd certainly
like to, given how impressed I am with Ubuntu over Mandrake, Debian Sarge,
and SUSE (Also, Ubuntu has the flexibility to be a Debian Sarge distro with
less hassle, which is good).  On to the meeting, and I hope transcripts of
it are made available to us to see later, if possible?

Bryan Pizzuti
Custom IT Solutions for Buisness
Poughkeepsie, NY, USA

Also

Bryan Pizzuti
3rd shift lead operator, OAO Technology Solutions
IBM Global Services Network Operations, Northeast Division

-----Original Message-----
From: ubuntu-users-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com
[mailto:ubuntu-users-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com] On Behalf Of Mark
Shuttleworth
Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 9:52 PM
To: Ubuntu Users List
Subject: Ubuntu community meeting on artwork: Monday 18 October, 1400 UTC on
#ubuntu


The discussion on this list, and in the web forums and IRC channel regarding
the artwork in the 4.10 (Warty Warthog) Release Candidate has been vigorous
and largely well-informed. I'd like to thank everybody who's posted their
views. There have been contributions from a wide variety of opinions, and
from both the developers of Ubuntu and end users.

Having read the mails and web discussions  (all of them) I think it's worth
calling for a community meeting on IRC to discuss this further and reach a
decision. I do love the expression "this is my decision and I won't hesitate
to take the wrong one". In this case it might even be true, so if this is an
important issue for you please try to participate:

  #ubuntu on irc.freenode.net (thanks to the good people at Freenode)
  14:00 UTC

I will put together a summary on the wiki of the arguments I've observed
thus far, so we can avoid a rehash of old ground.

By all means continue the debate and discussion in these lists/forums till
the decision is taken. I will try to keep up with everything that is said
here, and I expect the developers will continue to listen and contribute
too. We've not quite heard from everybody yet on the subject but I suspect
we are getting to the end of the novel arguments.

Cheers,
Mark

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