[ubuntu] OT: Pro and Con of vim [was: Good GUI Text Editor]

Gary R. James gary_r_james at yahoo.com
Thu Oct 7 19:46:27 UTC 2004


Martin,

What did you do to automate vim to help with latex?


On Thu, Oct 07, 2004 at 03:27:14PM +0200, Martin Pitt wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> Bill Stoye [2004-10-07  5:46 -0700]:
> > They also provide, for those with more experience 'emacs'(GUI) and
> > 'vim'; each of those has, for me, a steep learning curve. For instance I
> > can't even exit vim:  "type  :q<Enter>   to exit"
> > But it doesn't, so I have stuff to learn, 'emacs and 'vim' are on the
> > list but there is so much to learn, I'm afraid they are on the back
> > burner. From my reading about them, they are the power users tools.
> 
> Being a vim-only typer, I confirm that vim is a power-typer tool. It
> does have a steep learning curve (it took me several hours to learn
> and customize it, and a few weeks to get really acquainted to it), but
> since I spent 80% of my daily computer time (about 12 hours) in an
> editor, a few hours of learning quickly pay out since I can edit way
> more efficiently than e. g. with nano or mcedit. The other thing is
> that I do not need to learn new keybindings and GUIs for everything; I
> use vim to program code, write LaTeX, write mails, write all other
> text stuff, edit config files, view changelogs, code patches, etc. and
> I customized vim to be my command center for everything (automatic
> LaTeX and code compiling etc.).
> 
> On the other hand, if you spend only very little time with modifying
> ASCII text, them vim is not for you. The learning effort is constant,
> but if it saves me literally years. But if it saves you only a few
> hours in your life, then you should take an easier editor.
> 
> If you are a power typer, the following articles may interest you:
> 
> http://www.troubleshooters.com/lpm/200212/200212.htm
> http://www.oreilly.com/news/zenclavier_1299.html
> 
> Martin
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