What programs will be updated in in warty?

s.roman s.roman at gmail.com
Thu Nov 11 00:00:46 UTC 2004

thanks scott, that was an excellent explanation, especially about
removing the pn from preferences since I don't know whether I would
have found out about that otherwise.

On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 18:32:22 -0500, Travis Newman
<travis at moneyburger.com> wrote:
> Christoph Georgi wrote:
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I'm getting annoyed of this endless discussion for a few reasons:
> >
> Agreed.
> > - The Policy of Ubuntu is very clear: Every 6 month a new release,
> > free of charge, and 18 month support for every release. But, as was
> > made clear more then once now, there wont be any updates except for
> > important security issues and possible dataloss bugs.
> >
> And isn't that better? Having a stable distribution that can really
> compete with others and with other operating systems? You have to KNOW
> something works if you really want to influence the market at all.
> > - Don't complain about what you don't get but be happy with what you
> > get, and if you think of it, it's a lot! At Ubuntu someone else is
> > paying so that we have a free Distro with a policy/comittment of its
> > developers that only a commercial Distro could offer till now
> > (although you could consider Ubuntu as a commercial Distro, too, as
> > someone _is_ paying; but it's not the community, that's the difference).
> >
> Commercial, absolutely. Commercial mentality, absolutely not. Working
> with the community it feels like a grassroots distribution, barely
> making enough off donations to keep the servers up. But it has the
> capacity to do so much. Perhaps that was Shuttleworth's vision.
> > - If you've got enough money to pay developers or time to develop
> > stuff yourself, you can go ahead and make your own "Up-to-date-Ubuntu"
> > repostiory and if you share it with the community, we will certainly
> > be thankful. If you ask nicely, you might even get some webspace on
> > the Ubuntu Server. But the developers of Ubuntu haven't got the time
> > to do that and folks like me neither the time nor the money. So don't
> > compain, do it yourself. (btw. if one lookes through the mailing list
> > he will be suprised that he finds some howtos on installing firefox
> > 1.0 and thunderbird 0.9; some people have already done the job for you)
> >
> Yup. I posted howto's in the list a while back. It's really quite
> simple. If you really want bleeding edge stuff you can even find
> repositories with the new stuff and get it through apt and not have to
> worry about doing it manually.
> > I know that controverse discussions like the one about updates are
> > vital to shape and keep a Distribution such as Ubuntu alive, but there
> > is a point in time, when the discussion should find an end. And that
> > point is  overdue as the developers made clear that they haven't got
> > the capacity to maintain the demanded updates.
> >
> Well said :)
> > PS: I know I'm missing many points.. But I'm not going to write an
> > essay ;)
> I think you got the point across clearly enough, and I hope I added some
> to it.
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