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[Travis Newman]

> A default installation of Windows XP does indeed come with Java 
> installed.
> I know that for a fact because I removed the MS Java that comes 
> installed by default by hand and installed Sun's Java instead. 
> However, you are right about the other things.
>
> On Sun, 07 Nov 2004 22:08:01 +0100 Dennis Kaarsemaker: Nevertheless, 
> the whole point is that it is very simple to install all of these 
> other things using Windows. That is not the case with Ubuntu. Just 
> take a look at the Java install instructions for Ubuntu and tell me 
> how long it's going to be in minutes before your average computer user 
> who is used to Windows goes right back to Windows? Not very long IMHO. :o
>
Not anymore. They took it out with SP1. You now have to download Sun's Java