[ubuntu-us-ut] Airing of grievances (was Meerkat Ditching 'aptitude')

[Benjamin Cardon]

Ubuntu does do a lot of stuff that makes Gnome more usable, but I feel like
going "more OSX" is a bad direction to go when everyone around you is
avoiding most of its interface abominations like the plague :p

I personally feel that if the KDE project would tighten up a bit and get
more solid releases going, they would easily become "the" Linux Window
Manager (obviously I'm talking in mainstreams here, there will always be
more window managers). I feel like the KDE team are the only ones adding
useful features and mimicking the functionality of other OSes only where it
makes sense. I don't get that sense from the Gnome team at all, let alone
the Ubuntu developers.

That said, I definitely do appreciate the strides made by Ubuntu in terms of
making Linux more mainstream. Thanks to Ubuntu, my wife can actually use
Linux without feeling like she doesn't know what to do. Thanks to Ubuntu,
you can actually talk to most tech people about Linux and they will have at
least heard about a mainstream distribution for once.

On Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 11:54 AM, Charles Curley <
charlescurley at charlescurley.com> wrote:

> On Sun, 12 Sep 2010 11:40:37 -0600
> Aaron Toponce <aaron.toponce at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > While I'm not using Ubuntu any longer, I'll address the points you've
> > brought up.
> >
> > On Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 11:01:48AM -0600, Christer Edwards wrote:
> > > 1) window buttons belong on the right!
> >
> > Mark Shuttleworth has been making Ubuntu a Mac OS X competitor since
> > day one, and he has been very vocal about it. In his mind's eye, if
> > GNU/Linux is to compete with the Big Dogs on the desktop, it needs to
> > act like one. Because GNOME was primarily inspired by Mac OS Classic
> > (9 and earlier), it makes sense to design it further to behave like
> > it. If this bothers you, KDE was designed to be a Windows killer, so
> > that might be more your route to take.
>
> I don't want a "Mac look-alike". I don't want a "Windows look-alike". I
> want a desktop that has all the power, flexibility and ease of use of X.
> If that includes some Mac-ish or Windows-ish features, fine. But I want
> those features to be there because they are good features, not because
> because Mr. Shuttleworth has enslaved himself to the Ghods of Cupertino
> or the Ghods of Redmond.
>
> Maybe I'll join Aaron and move to Debian. I'm planning on replacing an
> 8.04 (Hungry Hippo) release with Debian stable on two machines that
> provide network services around here anyway; maybe I should do the same
> for other systems.
>
>
> >
> > BUt, the buttons moving to the left, the indicators, the "Me Menu",
> > the task bar, the themes, everything under GNOME from Canonical is
> > designed to compete directly with OS X, not Windows. While it's not my
> > preferrence, they've done more for the look and feel of a desktop than
> > any other vendor.
>
> Or made it worse (less flexible, more user hostile) and more servile.
>
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