JVLB UEFI Problem
James Bradley
jim at oregoncanoesport.com
Sat Nov 5 20:18:35 UTC 2011
Thanks, Cody, that is useful information. It looks like using this
utility to modify the Windows bootloader to point to GRUB on the Kubuntu
partition may provide the path of least resistance, however:
http://neosmart.net/dl.php?id=1
JVLB
On 11/04/2011 05:38 PM, Cody Edwin Smith wrote:
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> I thought I might point this out that looking at the wiki page on
> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFIBooting, just using GUIs to just
> install GRUB doesn't seem to do the trick, as you need to compile it
> with special flags, and this is best done on a Linux machine, such as
> Kubuntu ;)
>
> just thought I'd point that out.
>
> Cody Smith
>
>
>
> On 11/04/2011 04:01 PM, James Bradley wrote:
>> An additional thought occurs, if the secure boot feature is
>> available in the firmware, as you suggest, is it activated through
>> the setting of a single bit? If so, corruption of the firmware due
>> to a bad component or a glitch during the flashing of the BIOS
>> might account for the problem, enabling secure boot accidentally,
>> (and wouldn't that be a comforting thought?)
>>
>> JVLB
>>
>>
>> On 11/02/2011 04:25 PM, Allison Randal wrote:
>>> This is perfect, thanks! A bunch of us are at UDS this week, so
>>> I'm collecting details. One useful piece, next time you get
>>> access to the hardware, since the CD boots, you can run the
>>> Ubuntu Friendly tests straight from the Live CD session:
>>>
>>> http://friendly.ubuntu.com/participate/
>>>
>>> That can track down more detail on where the failure might be.
>>>
>>> Looks like I might get access to similar hardware next week, as
>>> well.
>>>
>>> Allison
>>>
>>> On 10/31/2011 11:53 AM, James Bradley wrote:
>>>> Thank you very much for your attention in this matter,
>>>> Allison.
>>>>
>>>> This page at HP's site has the most complete specifications I
>>>> can find:
>>>> http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/ca/en/ho/WF06b/12454-12454-3329740-64546-64546-5146457-5157056.html
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
> The machine is not in my possession, so I can't immediately access it,
>>>> (I'm helping a friend set it up). If there is more information
>>>> you need, like BIOS rev number or such, let me know and I'll
>>>> try to get it for you.
>>>>
>>>> I'm not sure how many details have been forwarded to you, so
>>>> let me briefly recap. Kubuntu 11.10-64 installs on its
>>>> partition without apparent problem. The installer identifies
>>>> the separate boot partition used by Win 7 as the target for
>>>> GRUB and the installation appears to progress normally. Upon
>>>> attempting to reboot, GRUB's menu never appears and the machine
>>>> boots straight into Windows. Attempts to install GRUB using the
>>>> Boot Repair disk appear to run normally, giving no errors, but
>>>> upon reboot the machine again immediately boots Windows.
>>>>
>>>> It would certainly seem that it is GRUB which is failing to
>>>> install. I can try to install using the command line, if you
>>>> think that will be helpful. Please let me know if there are any
>>>> special parameters which should be passed to grub-install in
>>>> such an attempt. Perhaps I should add, there is an entry in the
>>>> BIOS labeled "UEFI", but selecting it produces no response.
>>>>
>>>> It should be noted that HP consumer tech support was not
>>>> knowledgeable on the issue and was blocked from querying
>>>> business tech support by internal policy. Perhaps you can wield
>>>> sufficient clout to obtain a better result.
>>>>
>>>> Again, thank you for your time and attention in this matter.
>>>>
>>>> JVLB
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 10/31/2011 07:43 AM, Allison Randal wrote:
>>>>> This is almost certainly a problem with some hardware
>>>>> component in the system. UEFI has been around a long time,
>>>>> and is compatible with Linux (including Ubuntu). The Secure
>>>>> Boot feature was just introduced in the UEFI v2.3.1
>>>>> specification released in April 2011, and the hardware
>>>>> vendors are still working on implementation. So, UEFI Secure
>>>>> Boot isn't shipping in current hardware.
>>>>>
>>>>> JVLB, if you let me know a little more about the specs of
>>>>> your system, I can look up the components in our hardware
>>>>> database (http://hwdb.ubuntu.com/) and see if we can pinpoint
>>>>> a likely cause of failure.
>>>>>
>>>>> Allison
>>>>>
>>>>> On 10/30/2011 07:48 PM, Benjamin Kerensa wrote:
>>>>>> Hey JVLB,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So the UEFI issue you were having which I shared on my blog
>>>>>> is getting around the entire FOSS community (So far
>>>>>> Mandriva Forums, Linux Mint Forums, Ubuntu Forums and every
>>>>>> social network site) anyways a Ubuntu member suggested
>>>>>> trying a 64bit image for the install and also you might try
>>>>>> a alternate ISO if you haven't already.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There is some concern that it might be a Ubuntu bug instead
>>>>>> of UEFI/Secure Boot.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -- bkerensa
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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