[ubuntu-us-ma] Ubuntu-us-ma Digest, Vol 44, Issue 5

steven morth morth at rcn.com
Mon Oct 11 13:45:23 BST 2010 

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>    1.  SETC - run Ubuntu on  Tent City macs (steven)
>    2. Re:  SETC - run Ubuntu on Tent City macs (Michael Curran)
>    3. Re:  SETC (Daniel Hollocher)
>    4. Re:  SETC - run Ubuntu on Tent City macs (Seth Woodworth)
>    5. Re:  SETC (Martin Owens)
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> Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2010 13:51:22 -0400
> From: steven <morth at rcn.com>
> Subject: [ubuntu-us-ma] SETC - run Ubuntu on  Tent City macs
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> I am the "regulars" who show up on Tuesdays.  I have been trying to boot
> 'lucid Lynx' off the live CD.  I talked to Al Wallis who favors
> virtualisation.  I once tried Virtual Box to run XP on my notebook
> without success.   I don't have the administration privileges to install
> VirtualBox on any of their Macs.    I will be in the back room this
> tuesdat at 5:30
> 
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2010 15:13:12 -0400
> From: Michael Curran <curran.michaelp at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-us-ma] SETC - run Ubuntu on Tent City macs
> To: Ubuntu Massachusetts Local Community Team
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> Any idea if they are PowerPC or Intel Macs?
> 
> On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 1:51 PM, steven <morth at rcn.com> wrote:
> > I am the "regulars" who show up on Tuesdays. ?I have been trying to boot
> > 'lucid Lynx' off the live CD. ?I talked to Al Wallis who favors
> > virtualisation. ?I once tried Virtual Box to run XP on my notebook
> > without success. ? I don't have the administration privileges to install
> > VirtualBox on any of their Macs. ? ?I will be in the back room this
> > tuesdat at 5:30
> >
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2010 15:37:58 -0400
> From: Daniel Hollocher <danielhollocher at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-us-ma] SETC
> To: Dave Hunt <ka1cey at gmail.com>
> Cc: Ubuntu Massachusetts Local Community Team
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> Here is the website: http://www.tech-center-enlightentcity.tv/
> 
> It is a community computer center.  Martin used to run classes there
> every Tuesday, and we used to have the occasional meetings there.
> 
> Right now, there is nothing formal happening on Tuesdays.  It is an
> open question as to how folks can participate.  My plan is to just
> show up occasionally, and see what is going on for myself.
> 
> Dan
> 
> 
> 
> On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 11:27 AM, Dave Hunt <ka1cey at gmail.com> wrote:
> > ?What is this place? ?You say that Tuesday is Ubuntu Night. ?What does this
> > mean, and how can I participate? ?You mention donated computers? ?I may be
> > able to help with those. ?I have two, both with Lucid, in addition to the
> > one I use daily.
> >
> >
> > Best Regards,
> >
> >
> > Dave
> >
> >
> > On 10/10/10 00:35, Daniel Hollocher wrote:
> >>
> >> Hey folks,
> >> I talked with Mel about the SETC, and it sounds like there are still
> >> opportunities for us there.
> >> Tuesday nights are still reserved as an Ubuntu night and apparently
> >> there are still a couple people that show up (regulars). ?We are still
> >> welcome to use that night to do Ubuntu stuff.
> >>
> >> I think the introduction of all the Macs presented a problem. ?Mel's
> >> thinking behind that was that he wanted to make available OSX,
> >> Windows, and Ubuntu as options for people, and he assumed that we
> >> would be able to work with that. ?I think we have to respect that the
> >> SETC is a general computing center serving the community at large, so
> >> it makes sense that he would want to provide access to all the major
> >> computing environments. ?Mel is very willing to help make things work,
> >> ie if the macs are a pain to setup Ubuntu on, there are still some pc
> >> computers around, whatever.
> >>
> >> Also, it is still the policy to recommend Ubuntu on the donated computers.
> >>
> >> Hopefully we can make use of the SETC, at least keep it on our radar.
> >> Mel would really like for us to maintain a relationship. ?Even though
> >> the situation may not end up living up to expectations, we can still
> >> be a part of the SETC. ?We can't really have an fsf-approved, all or
> >> nothing attitude toward the situation. ?There are still things that
> >> linux can't do, or can't do very well. ?We can't expect everyone to be
> >> happy with linux now.
> >>
> >> Dan
> >>
> >
> >
> 
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> Message: 4
> Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2010 16:41:06 -0400
> From: Seth Woodworth <seth at isforinsects.com>
> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-us-ma] SETC - run Ubuntu on Tent City macs
> To: Ubuntu Massachusetts Local Community Team
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> PowerPC macs were discontinued sometime around 2006.  The Macs I saw at SETC
> (wasn't paying close attention) seemed to be modern iMacs, so Intel.
> 
> On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 3:13 PM, Michael Curran
> <curran.michaelp at gmail.com>wrote:
> 
> > Any idea if they are PowerPC or Intel Macs?
> >
> > On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 1:51 PM, steven <morth at rcn.com> wrote:
> > > I am the "regulars" who show up on Tuesdays.  I have been trying to boot
> > > 'lucid Lynx' off the live CD.  I talked to Al Wallis who favors
> > > virtualisation.  I once tried Virtual Box to run XP on my notebook
> > > without success.   I don't have the administration privileges to install
> > > VirtualBox on any of their Macs.    I will be in the back room this
> > > tuesdat at 5:30
> > >
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> Message: 5
> Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2010 14:28:59 -0400
> From: Martin Owens <doctormo at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-us-ma] SETC
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> On Sun, 2010-10-10 at 00:35 -0400, Daniel Hollocher wrote:
> > We can't really have an fsf-approved, all or
> > nothing attitude toward the situation.  There are still things that
> > linux can't do, or can't do very well.  We can't expect everyone to be
> > happy with linux now. 
> 
> The situation with myself was that I was personally burned. Even then I
> invited others to take over and see Ubuntu installed. Just because my
> classes got disrupted and I lost faith and trust in Mel over the issues
> didn't actually reflect any technical or FOSS issues.
> 
> I want to make this clear because some people might think I pulled out
> for FOSS reasons when I instead pulled out for personal and trust
> reasons related to execution of how the Mac transition was handled and
> what promises were broken around that.
> 
> I'm slowly building up my own relationship again with Mel, but I still
> invite others to jump ahead of me and take the opportunity forwards.
> 
> Martin Owens
> 
> ber o
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> I just want to help without being disruptive. I volunteer to install Lynx
on machines but Wifi problems defeat me. I am a member of the BLU and
volunteer at their installfests. I'll be at SETC tommorow evening. If
anybody knows snything about EFI or Visualbox please contact me.
I don't think we shou ld use Parallels or VMfusion if an open source
solution is possible. I am in favor of a double, triple or even a quad
boot on at least 1 machine
Thanks

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